Socialism

The proof was referring to trying to apply same means of revolution to a different system. Revolution agains preindustrialized feudalism doesnt prove the methods success agains developed capitalism.

Yet, you're unable to put in concrete terms how these differences matter in terms of organizing a revolution. You're just making hand wavy statements that lack substance here.

I agree the nature tells us lots of different things. And when one starts to pick seemingly related concepts he will find whatever he wants. Did you know that fascist believe that they are just intepreting biology? Same with colonialists. Thats why they are not a serious argument. Unless we talk of something innate to humans that would prevent certain specific behavior.

This addresses nothing of what I actually said.

Yeah no. Basic logic here. When was the other famine there? After tsar before stalin? Any proof?

Yeah there's plenty of proof, and maybe go spend a bit of time learning about the subject instead of wasting other people's time with inane claims. This whole discussion started with me pointing out that you're speaking out of ignorance here, and everything you've said in this thread has further reinforced that fact. You keep acting like things you're attempting to debate are just abstract ideas while there is very clear history and facts at play here.

In any case, it's pretty clear that this discussion isn't going anywhere. We're obviously not going to agree on anything or convince each other of anything. So, I'm going to stop here and let you have the last word.