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Because the US is NOT a democracy and every single right we have was only won through violence. Civil rights? Malcom X and the Black Panthers had to resort to violence. Gay rights? Please see the Stonewall riots. The right to unionize? Workers had to take up guns and fight the police and military multiple times for the mere right to unionize.
You could've just voted for Kamala and there wouldn't be any need for violence. The US isn't a democracy because Americans prefer violence over democracy.
Trumps America is truly what America has always been without the squeaky clean public relations veneer of respectability. He takes it two steps above where the dems do. America has needed an uprising since before I was born and its the moderate liberal like you cheerleading for team blue standing in the way.
Joe Biden didnt fix the problem and neither would Kamala. They are the new wheels and a coat of paint on the orphan grinder and trump is a new grinding wheel. The problem is the machinery and you cant fix that with a vote for team blue.
Have you ever considered that the Democractic party isn't 100% aligned with your views because there's more people out there that disagree with you than agree with you? That's part of democracy, accepting that the will of the people may not be the same as what you want and accepting that you need to convince others of your views.
If most people don't agree with you, and you want to use violence to impose your will on others, then you're just an authoritarian. You aren't going to accomplish anything through violence when you're incapable of convincing anyone through peaceful means. Even if you get power through violence you'd just be another tyrant that people would need to destroy to be able to live in a society they want to live in.
Instead of romanticizing revolutions, maybe try studying the ones that have happened in history and apply some critical thinking. Wanting to end democracy to get your way makes you a fascist no matter how much you tankie rationalizations you try to paint it over with.
Tell that to France. I think they’re doing quite well. They refused to put up with 1789 oligarchs.
I am well aware that their consent has been manufactured successfully, and also that a fascist machine can never be allowed to prevail regardless of its veneer of democracy or legitimacy. Do you honestly look at the American government and see democracy?
Is your advice to the civil rights movements of the past that they should have never pursued direct action because the majority had not deemed it necessary to afford them rights?
The 8 hour workday wasnt worth fighting for? Stonewall should have just stuck to catchy slogans? Your response perfectly encapsulates the danger of the white moderate and the downfall of respectability politics.
Revolutions are made necessary by boot licking sycophants who hold order over justice. In a society that abandons justice there can be no order without authoritarianism**. I dont believe authoritarianism is valid when it has been voted for, it should be met with the same violence it wields against others. **
I see America becoming more fascist every day because both the right and left have been conditioned by social media to hate democracy.
You may feel like you're better than those that support MAGA, but you really aren't. You're the ones falling for catchy slogans like "late stage capitalism" and "genocide Joe" which have "radicalized" you (another way of saying you've turned off your brain) to turn against democracy. You're just as narcissistic as Trump, just you want to be the one imposing your will onto others instead of Trump. Tankies claim to dislike MAGAs but are incapable of seeing they are the exact same kind of people.
By abandoning democracy, the Tankie crowd is just as complicit as the MAGAs in the suffering that will result from fascism. Just got scammed by a different of authoritarian grifters, but the result is the same. Nobody will respect a movement that did nothing while their country became an fascist shithole, and they certainly won't be making you the authoritarians in charge. The "late stage capitalism" narrative was a scam and you fell for it just as hard as MAGAs fell for Trump telling them he'd bring about a golden age for America.
There are no shortcuts for progress, and you're currently moving backwards because internet algorithms have made you willing to trade democracy for a fantasy golden age just like the MAGAs.
A whole bunch of assumptions and no substance. Just an elitest lib Pearl clutching because the left wont abandon their principles for diet fascism.
If we had actual direct consensus based democracy I would have a different opinion, but we have an oligarchy in America, an electoral college, closed primary systems with arbitrary rules and super delegates. America is not a democracy.
I concede that revolution is an authoritarian act, but I believe revolution against a tyrannical government is self defense and not only justified but a moral imperative.
I am not even a tankie, and to water down my presumed ideology to feed your sense of superiority is exactly what I expected from you.
But but Genocide but but her emails… but but he’s old but but…
The last time trump lost they stormed the Capitol.
I can't imagine they'd be more peaceful a 2nd time around.
So voting him into office is the better option? Come on now.