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[–] MECHAGODZILLA2@midwest.social 16 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Anyone speaking of secession - please, read history. We do not want to do that again, I don’t care what you believe in, it is a terrible idea. Please think it through beyond how admittedly awesome it would be in theory alone.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 40 points 1 day ago

It's a terrible idea, but so is invading Greenland, Canada, or Panama. We don't do such things anymore, read history why, but yet, here we are.

This is how a possible secession starts. Trump might prohibit California from doing this because it goes against his masters plan of destroying the US, California doesn't want to become a husk of it's former self and pushes through.

If California were to secede, it would immediately break the rest of the US. All the red states have been so poorly managed for decades that they near fully rely in handouts from successful states like California. With California gone, other blue and successful states would likely follow because they won't be able to pay the bill for those states either, splitting the US into a successful new country and dirt poor third world type theocratic dictatorship nation. Maybe it wouldn't be the worst thing, let the christo fascists live in the hell hole that they want

Secession(s) will likely include a civil war, and right now with the decade of trump shit causing division and chaos, I think that too isn't too far fetched anymore. There is nothing as horrible as neighbor fighting neighbors, ask Yugoslavia, but here we are in Trump's world.

[–] rocket_dragon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 23 hours ago

Wouldn't MAGA supposedly be thrilled for California to leave?

I'm trying to imagine trumper militia marching into California saying, "we need to keep this liberal shithole and it's 54 blue electoral votes".

Yeah, it would be devastating for the US economy, but if MAGA has told us anything it's that they prefer to tank the economy than embrace any kind of diversity.

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago

Now city-states on the other hand...

[–] dukeofdummies@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago

It's even worse today. The amount of interconnected systems we have in play would be absolutely chaos to try and separate.

We didn't have to worry about power grids, networking, food was FAR more local, it would take years to try to isolate yourself from it all on a statewide scale.

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 0 points 21 hours ago

Im familiar with history, and yes, I would love for my state to leave the current union... It's a failed democracy.