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I tried to find a better source but there wasn't one. The article is at the Bulwark which is Bill Kristol's lib-funded shitrag. I ran out of space in the title. if he does - it will be by the end of the month. See the bit in bold.

Will Trump Invoke the Insurrection Act of 1807 Next? - thebulwark.com

The White House did not respond to a request for comment on whether Trump will invoke the Insurrection Act before April ends.

The Insurrection Act of 1807, which allows the president to deploy U.S. armed forces and the national guard against Americans in situations of civil unrest, was last invoked in 1992 to put down the Rodney King riots after the four white police officers who were filmed beating King were acquitted. The nonpartisan Brennan Center has called the law “dangerously overbroad and ripe for abuse.”

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As a reminder, the executive order declaring a national emergency at the southern border framed what is happening there as an “invasion” that threatens “America’s sovereignty” as part of its justification for Trump’s decrees.

“This whole strategy from Trump is really based on the demonization of immigrants and the idea we’re being invaded as justification of all executive orders that are trampling on our civil rights and freedoms,” Vanessa Cárdenas, the executive director of immigrant rights group America’s Voice, told The Bulwark. “They’ve been demonizing immigrants for a long time to psychologically prepare people for these actions, and we need to reject and denounce it.”

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Insurrection Act of 1807 - wikipedia.org

The Insurrection Act of 1807 is a United States federal law that empowers the president of the United States to deploy the U.S. military and federalized National Guard troops within the United States in particular circumstances, such as to suppress civil disorder, insurrection, or rebellion.

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DECLARING A NATIONAL EMERGENCY AT THE SOUTHERN BORDER OF THE UNITED STATES - whitehouse.gov

The White House

January 20, 2025

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[–] ANarcoSnowPlow@hexbear.net 55 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Suppose he activates the military.

There's not enough military to continue adventurism and suppress cities. Even if you called up all the national guards. Like a few cities could be covered tightly maybe, but not all of them.

You'd have to start calling up "militias" and shit. That shit isn't gonna be as disciplined as the regular military.

Sounds like a dumbass recipe to all the sudden lose control and balkanize the whole country.

Hell, California is already talking about inking independent trade deals with foreign countries.

There's a point at which I think certain states will just start ignoring the feds.

Either way, it's not gonna be fun for us smallfolk.

[–] Xiisadaddy@lemmygrad.ml 51 points 2 weeks ago

This was already done during the george floyd protests. Theyll give cops military gear and use them. The cops will just be given a blanket "do what you have to do" order and face no consequences for mass violence.

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 35 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

There's a point at which I think certain states will just start ignoring the feds.

I don't think so. But all of this is a guessing game. Still - I'm certain people like Gavin Newsom won't do that. He's surely dreaming of becoming president in 2028. And I think he's going to keep moving to the right.

[–] ANarcoSnowPlow@hexbear.net 38 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

The primary way the federal government maintains control (aside from belief) is money.

These dumbasses have already started yanking all the funding they felt like they could get away with. If that keeps going, they'll burn all the methods of control except force and they just don't have enough.

Hell, Gavin is a giant reactionary turd, but he's not dumb, he's had to have considered the possibility of being king shit of the Republic of California.

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 26 points 2 weeks ago

they just don't have enough.

You may be right. Unfortunately - we might learn the answer in the coming months. A very important deadline is coming up soon. Trump's DOJ has until midnight Monday to return a guy kidnapped in the US and sent to the El Salvador horror prison due to an "administrative error". I'm 99+% sure that the guy won't be returned and that will be the beginning of Trump totally ignoring the courts. We'll see.

[–] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Hell, Gavin is a giant reactionary turd, but he's not dumb, he's had to have considered the possibility of being king shit of the Republic of California

I think it was Felix that once said “Gavin Newsome has a better chance of being Supreme Leader of the California Imperium than President of the United States” and that has really stuck with me

[–] ANarcoSnowPlow@hexbear.net 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I don't think he's wrong there. I don't see Newsome winning a national election. Actual leftists hate him (and the rest of the Democrats) and everyone else thinks "Commifornia"

[–] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh I absolutely agree. If Gruesome Gavin has a mind for his political future he would be focusing on shoring up alliances with Washington, Oregon, and Mexico, and preparing for secession.

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 3 points 2 weeks ago

I think he's the only US governor Xi personally met, so Gruesome Newsome might already be doing just that.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Hell, Gavin is a giant reactionary turd, but he's not dumb, he's had to have considered the possibility of being king shit of the Republic of California.

This causes an immediate civil war.

[–] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 11 points 2 weeks ago

If the federal government is sending in troops and deputizing paramilitaries you’re already there

[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Maybe he'll run for president of West America

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

Was that a region in that stupid Civil War movie? It's kind of funny. I sort of read an article about it and I read some posts here about it. It seemed like utter shit. The part of my brain that controls memory decided that the movie wasn't worth remembering. I totally forgot about it as if it came out a decade ago or something.

I seriously can't remember a thing about it other than Kirsten Dunst is in it and Alex Garland wrote it and... That's all I remember.

[–] Nacarbac@hexbear.net 10 points 2 weeks ago

All I remember of it is that journalists are the real heroes, pictures are exactly like bullets, and that any mention of politics would get in the way of a civil war movie.

He should have done a Fatal Frame movie instead.

Random aside, but Battle Angel Alita did the wartime-journalist-as-voyeur side story better!

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 8 points 2 weeks ago

It's ideologically incoherent but it did give us this meme which makes me laugh.

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 8 points 2 weeks ago

Was that a region in that stupid Civil War movie?

I watched it and honestly? They don't go too deep into it. It's just a vague vibes based setting.

[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 6 points 2 weeks ago

I've forgotten everything about it as well, except that Dunst was a photographer

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 28 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Federal+State+local police and sheriff's departments, ICE, FBI, IRS agents, there's lots of armed agents of the government that could be drafted without even activating militias. The US is a police state.

[–] tactical_trans_karen@hexbear.net 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

And they're still wildly outnumbered and out gunned by the average normies. These agents are nothing without the coordinated supports of the fed, which is getting more and more unstable and impossible to communicate with.

[–] LeGrognardOfLove@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 2 weeks ago

You over estimate the courrage of the citizens of the USA.

Half will side with the cops.

The other half will bluster and wave their guns around until bullets start to fly, then they will mostly shut up and side with the cops.

Usa is a nation of cowards, this is how fascism came back so easily in the first place.

[–] SootySootySoot@hexbear.net 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The police state has always been outnumbered and outgunned by average people, hasn't been an issue for them so far.

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 27 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

You'd have to start calling up "militias" and shit. That shit isn't gonna be as disciplined as the regular military.

i usually spell that word "freikorps"

[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 12 points 2 weeks ago

That's a completely different spelling

[–] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You’re forgetting to Americanize it. They’ll be like “Freedom Squads” or something even more lame

[–] sleeplessone@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago

Freedom Fry Corps

[–] john_brown@hexbear.net 10 points 2 weeks ago

frycorps

Burger brigades

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 weeks ago
[–] REEEEvolution@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago

Don't you yanks have the national guard for that?