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I'm saying you can't call one mode of transportation "unsafe" while completely ignoring the elephant that is the dangers of driving.
I'm not ignoring it, driving is dangerous, for sure. Never claimed it wasn't. That said, so is the NYC subway. "I can leave my phone and go to the bathroom" isn't something that is reasonable there. I'm saying you can't call the NYC subway "safe" while completely ignoring the elephant in the room that is stabbings and rapes, etc.
"Pre-pandemic levels" is still not great, it's probably more crime than whatever country "I can leave my phone.." has in total. Like, NYC subway pre-pandemic vs that entire country, NYC subway probably "wins" (though a win here is in reality a loss, 'cause crime is bad.)
Y'all really just finding out America is dangerous or something?
And as you've tapdancer around, you want me to believe the subway is unsafe. My point is simply that if you want to call the subway unsafe, then you have to admit driving is much worse. Whether you're stabbed or you are spread along a 1/4 mile or pavement, it's still dead.
No, "I've tapdancer" around nothing. You are attempting to force the narrative that I'm claiming driving is perfectly safe, when in reality I claimed no such thing. All I'm saying is that "pre pandemic levels of crime" is still pretty bad. I absolutely guarantee the NYC subway by itself has more crime than the entire country of the person who earlier said "I can leave my phone charging and go to the bathroom" on their train. Safer? Sure maybe. Safe**.**? No.
There you go, that was my point, thank you. That if you're going to claim the subway is dangerous, you should at least say it's safer than driving.
Well you're welcome for finally understanding my point!
Still not "safe."
But safer than driving.
Lot less car crashes, that's for sure. Still not "safe."