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In Hillary's defense (ugh) trump is about the only candidate she had a chance to beat
The real problem was the old dnc insisting it should be her, letting her primary campaign fund the dnc, and letting her primary campaign have final say over everything the DNC did during both the primary and general...
She literally staged a hostile takeover of the party funded by billionaires who it turns out we're fine with trump and even preferred him.
So if you zoom out, it wasn't really Hillary's fault. She was a useful idiot to American's oligarchs whether she knew it or not. Billionaires bought her so she'd buy the DNC and make sure we didn't get anyone even close to Obama again
The really really good news is we finally got the DNC out of neoliberals hands.
The fight over the party already happened, and we won.
So it's important to understand this recent history, but under no circumstances blame the current dnc of 2025 for the bullshit Hillary's people pulled the last 30 years
Who is 'we', and what exactly did they win? Cause from where I sit Biden and Harris are pretty neoliberal themselves.
Anyone that's not a Republican or a neoliberal...
What does that have to do with the DNC chair elected about two months ago?
Link to news article on the story you're discussing?
New dnc chair:
https://democrats.org/news/ken-martin-elected-as-new-dnc-chair-commits-to-build-democratic-party-to-win-to-expand-and-to-last/
Hillary funding the dnc and requiring approval of dnc press releases and actions:
And
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/02/clinton-brazile-hacks-2016-215774/
But I recommend everyone read the whole thing because it even gets into how the "victory fund" bankrupted state parties leading to Republicans controlling the House today:
I dunno about the DNC chair, but claiming victory after having gotten rid of one neoliberal candidate to just replace them with another seems premature at a minimum. shrug
What? Other than the Bernie bullshit what are you talking about? Also why do you personally dislike her? Truly just curious.
It's possible you blocked the other person and didn't see this was already answered, so here's a direct link to my other comment:
https://lemmy.world/post/27978735/16338955
Thanks for the link. I just didn't scroll enough. Commented before reading further down, apologies. Ick. It seems to be an issue with the DNC. They were left vulnerable to financial influence because they were in debt from Obama. All that funding was needed to get a reasonable human being in office. She probably knew this as his VP and was able to use money to get assistance being the nomination. I still think she would have been far better than trump, she is actually good with money. But god, is that fucking annoying that the political parties are just companies that can be bought. Uggggggh it always just boils down to money. God I wish Bernie had been president. He would have worked to get the rich out of our government. I gotta take a break from this, it's just fucking depressing
And the DNC chair resigned and was immediately rewarded with a spot on Hillary's campaign...
That's the whole problem. The DNC and Hillary's campaign was the same people.
Obama neglected the DNC because in 08 they worked against him in the primary and abandoned him in the general... Because he didn't name a chair as president after the general, Hillary's people held onto the reigns.
But Obama didn't put the DNC into debt, that DNC choose to play favorites and when their favorite (Hillary) lost they didn't support the candidate.
The DNC went bankrupt betting the house on Hillary.
Do...
Do you think Hillary was Obama's VP?
As of two months ago the neoliberals have been kicked out of DNC leadership, the new chair used to run Minnesota State Dem party and has a very strong track record.
It's great you're asking questions though, and the silver lining is we already won the fight of the party. Shit was fucked at the dnc for decades, now it isn't.
So whatever you do, don't start working against the current dnc because of what was done more than 2 months ago.
So
Does it make sense why so many Dem voters hate Hillary now?