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[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 47 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The American empire still has some legs but this likely will be the date history remembers as the beginning of the end.

[–] banghida@lemm.ee 6 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I think 9.11 was the beginning of the end.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 month ago (2 children)

9/11 itself didn't do it-- it was America's response that sealed the deal

[–] banghida@lemm.ee 15 points 1 month ago

Right. But I think that was the plan of the perpetrators exactly.

[–] match@pawb.social 3 points 1 month ago

9/11 was the stab wound that got infected

[–] LeninOnAPrayer@lemm.ee 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I would agree in terms of a single event. But I also think people really don't realize how the fall of the USSR (and it's decline) changed US foreign policy forever. It really allowed the US to spread out with its capitalist greed and let the imperial core decline to put profits in the hands of it's ruling class.

It was this monopolar world that allowed capitalist greed and internal contradictions to be felt so strongly.

And, no matter what you think about China. They learned from the USSR and didn't get involved like the USSR did in Afghanistan (arguably the turning point into it's fall). They sat back and watch the US destroy itself while China just thrived internally.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It was certainly a turning point. But they could still have soldiered on for another 100 years or so without the Orange Baboon.

[–] banghida@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago

Orange is a symptom not a cause.