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This megathread's topic is inspired by our lovely news regular, @Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net, who talks often about the conditions inside El Salvador and gives nuanced and informative takes.

As the Trump administration continues to make foreign policy blunders that would make even the staunchest anti-imperialist accelerationist blush - and we are barely three months in! - it's interesting to compare and contrast his policies of incompetent imperialist and domestic management to the dictators in other countries.

Bukele is somewhat unique among fascists, in that he seems to not hide - and seems to even admit to - his evil, self-describing as the world's "coolest dictator". El Salvador has no particular shortage of prominent fascists in their history, but one major example is Maximiliano Martínez, who led the country over much of the 1930s and the early 1940s. He was responsible the deaths of many thousands of communists and indigneous people, and yet joined World War 2 on the side of the Allies and against the Nazis.

The comparisons between Martínez and Bukele - and, indeed, between Bukele and Trump - in terms of their impact on minority groups are slowly growing as world attention is being drawn to the country. The recent meeting between Bukele and Trump has shifted a spotlight onto El Salvador's crime policy; the internal conditions of El Salvador's prisons are genuinely monstrous. One gets a similar feeling as when reading descriptions of the conditions of Holocaust victims in German concentration camps. Trump has made statements to the effect that he want a similar crime crackdown inside the United States, and I certainly believe that he wants this (ICE is already just kidnapping people off the streets into vans), but his administration has been so chaotic and mismanaged that it's difficult to determine whether this will be an interest he rapidly drops in favor of some other hair-brained scheme.


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[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 53 points 3 days ago (9 children)

I came across a popular Tik Tok clip of Dan Bilzerian "Prince of Grifters" dismantling Zionist talking points during an interview on the Patrick Bet-David podcast; and I got to say the western left is utterly devoid of skilled orators

The rock solid confidence Bilzerian displayed while he shut down the typical "do you condemn Hamas" line of questioning left the interviewer stuttering and visibly taken aback

It's a social effect I haven't seen anywhere else, not Hasan, not Sam Seder, Finkelstein occasionally approaches this skill but even then he falls slightly short.

It's deeply frustrating that a dipshit influencer can instantly create a memorable clip like that while a legion of left-wing podcasters and commenters can barely match its punch even after 18 months of trying

[–] Eiren@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The problem is that leftists get shut down (by libs and radlibs, but often even by other leftists) if they say things that are mean or rude, even if they're also true. As a result, there aren't any in-your-face, never-back-down leftists in the spotlight.

Good example is Roger Hallam.

[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 40 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

The problem with Bilzerian is that he's straight up antisemitic. In that he is very prejudice towards Jewish people. So he doesn't care about being bigoted towards Jews, which is why he speaks like that.

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 41 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Exactly and that adds to my frustration, but we can't afford to let racists and bigots monopolize the concept of confidence in political spaces

We need more leftists who can harness Badempanada energy, but without the basement gremlin aesthetic

[–] sewer_rat_420@hexbear.net 33 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah unfortunately every leftist influencer is hyper aware of coming off anti semitic. But its self defeating, they will call you antisemitic anyway. And it opens the door for actual antisemites like bilzerian or klandace Owens to gain traction.

[–] Sinisterium@hexbear.net 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Doesn’t help that a lot of left-adjacent people are very bad faith comprehenders/too diplomatic.

[–] 0__0@hexbear.net 32 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Exactly this. You not only have to have confidence, but also be witty and have a bit of bravado ideally. You also have to treat fascists as fucking fascists, don't be charitable whatsoever, initiate the name calling and openly mock them whilst being cool headed and above the situation itself. Many leftist instead engage in debates where they let the fascist speak, express his views etc. You need to call a spade a spade immediately, not fuck around for the sake of liberal civility.

[–] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

confidence, but also be witty and have a bit of bravado ideally

sigh I think I score 0.5 out of 3 on this scale :(

[–] 0__0@hexbear.net 2 points 1 day ago

I mean, I think I fulfill the criteria online. In real life with social anxiety however... joever

[–] Antiwork@hexbear.net 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You not only have to have confidence, but also be witty and have a bit of bravado ideally. You also have to treat fascists as fucking fascists, don't be charitable whatsoever, initiate the name calling and openly mock them whilst being cool headed and above the situation itself. Many leftist instead engage in debates where they let the fascist speak, express his views etc. You need to call a spade a spade immediately, not fuck around for the sake of liberal civility.

So what Hasan does

[–] BreathThroughTheTube@hexbear.net 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

except not be kinda dumb and lose most arguments by ceding tons of ground right out the gate

[–] Antiwork@hexbear.net 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes, the twitch streamer must be a brilliant academic and charismatic. I keep hearing this ceding tons of ground and I have no idea what that means.

[–] BreathThroughTheTube@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

It means he opens a “debate” with accepting the premises of the Liberal or chud. He only quibbles on small pedantic points.

For example, whenever he talks about Russia-Ukraine he uses western liberal framing of Putin being an evil guy who did a full scale invasion blah blah. He doesn’t even try to explain the context at all. He does this with all geopolitical events. He just takes the western framing and narrative and quibbles on small details instead of attack the entire false narrative and asserting his own

[–] Antiwork@hexbear.net 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I disagree. He gives the western frame not as a point of agreement but the point of context and then walks through how western imperialism has gotten the mass public to agree to this frame and then takes apart the whole thing piece by piece. I guess he could just go in full scale and say they're wrong but running a 10 hour twitch stream the conversation would be over pretty quickly and not much learning would be done by the viewer. It would just be you agree or you don't.

[–] BreathThroughTheTube@hexbear.net 1 points 13 hours ago

Hasan says he supports Ukraine and that Putin is a fascist dictator. He's full radlib. He doesn't reject the western framing.

Hasan immediately gives so much ground. All you have to do to win an argument against him is make an extreme claim confidently over and over. It will derail him and he just focuses on that nitpicked point and cedes everything else.

[–] Sinisterium@hexbear.net 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don’t really think you can “own”your way into a revolution.

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 12 points 3 days ago

When making a cake, every ingredient is important

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 29 points 3 days ago

Right-wingers are usually more confident in a way that is often just arrogance and have no problem saying things that leftists would find too problematic. This makes them come across as “based” to the average person watching those TikTok’s.

[–] jack@hexbear.net 26 points 3 days ago

I have that skill. I just don't have the platform.

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 16 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

didn't yanis instantly on like oct 8th said he doesn't condemn hamas shrug-outta-hecks and he is fairly charismatic, despite being wrong on lots of stuff.

[–] Antiwork@hexbear.net 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I've heard Hasan make the exact argument and just as clearly. Dan also thinks Israel killed JFK and did 9/11.

well Hasan should listen to his own advice and stop letting chatters dictate the conversation. He does an awful job controlling the narrative on his stream

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Nah Hasan wastes too much time over-intellectualizing basic points and getting distracted by deadend tangents or overly-charitable interpretations of nonsense from bad faith actors

The last time I saw him get down to brass tax was when he shut down that random liberal Zionist Brit on Piers Morgan's show, over a year ago

Most of the time he projects the unfortunate tone of someone who is whiny, hesitant, and uncertain, which is only partially nullified by his general dude bro aesthetic

He's just too damn nice

[–] Antiwork@hexbear.net 6 points 2 days ago

He runs an all day talk show. He has to ramble at times to keep it going. And often times he does this because people listen to him for a long time are in his chat and willing to engage so it makes sense.

That Pier Morgan interview was one of the times I'm talking about. When he goes on other shows he has no problem openly shouting down fascists and calling them for what they are. He does this with chat all the time too.

We don't have many popular Marxists who are teaching media literacy effectively to the masses.