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Is the EBU going to ban Spain do you think?

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[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I have always found it odd that Israel plays in UEFA European tournaments in football/soccer and yet Jordan, Lebanon, etc do not.

[–] alex@jlai.lu 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)
  1. It's not like they can play in 90% of the Asian countries to be fair
  2. I believe lots of countries "in the middle" choose their continent. I know it's the case for Russia and Turkey at least. Depending on the sports they'll go be small fish in a big pond to improve or get paid more (UEFA typically is more interesting than other football leagues) or big fishes in a small pond, where they can get nice placements and, where relevant, qualify for the Olympics more easily.
  3. (Would still be nice to have Eurovision be European, though.)
[–] Madagaskar_sky@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It’s not like they can play in 90% of the Asian countries to be fair

And why is that?

I know it’s the case for Russia and Turkey at least.

THAT is when the idea is debatable. Because they have such close history with what they define as europe and have part of their territory within the defined land borders. How Azerbaizan and Armenia qualify god knows. If Lebanon and Syria don't qualify regardless of their desires, then neither should be Israel.

[–] alex@jlai.lu 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Lebanon is allowed to participate. They don't, probably because it's too expensive and not worth it for them.

[–] Madagaskar_sky@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Then what is the qualification criteria? How white the country is? How close to a 'normal' european you look?

EDIT: No, you know what? I don't care. This is getting stupid for me. Not that eurovision is stupid, it is stupid because I don't even care about this, why am I getting so invested in this?

[–] mrvictory1@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Being a member of European Broadcasting Union is the qualification criteria

[–] Madagaskar_sky@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Thank you. I won't ask what the qualifications are for joining the European Broadcasting Union. Because I don't care about this topic. I might a little, but it's better for me to not to. Thank you for informing me.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 2 points 1 month ago

Nah, Eurovision should invite Canada like we did with Australia. But Canada doesn't care.

[–] OwlPaste@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Odd doesn't begin to describe bribery in attempt to boost public image

[–] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

+1 for Lebanon, and even Syria should be included

[–] Vittelius@feddit.org 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Lebanon is already allowed to compete (their national broadcaster Télé-Liban is a full EBU member) as is Egypt (National Media Authority), Algeria (Etablissement Public de Télévision Algérienne) and Tunisia (Télévision tunisienne). They just opt not to.

See https://www.ebu.ch/about/members

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

In this thread we are talking about inclusion in UEFA vs AFC vs CAF, not Eurovision. Lebanon is in the AFC, Egypt is in the CAF.