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[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (7 children)

Communism stateless anti authoritarian? Are we not confused with Anarchism?

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 36 points 1 month ago (40 children)

The distinction between Marxists and the anarchists is this: (1) The former, while aiming at the complete abolition of the state, recognize that this aim can only be achieved after classes have been abolished by the socialist revolution, as the result of the establishment of socialism, which leads to the withering away of the state. The latter want to abolish the state completely overnight, not understanding the conditions under which the state can be abolished. (2) The former recognize that after the proletariat has won political power it must completely destroy the old state machine and replace it by a new one consisting of an organization of the armed workers, after the type of the Commune. The latter, while insisting on the destruction of the state machine, have a very vague idea of what the proletariat will put in its place and how it will use its revolutionary power. The anarchists even deny that the revolutionary proletariat should use the state power, they reject its revolutionary dictatorship. (3) The former demand that the proletariat be trained for revolution by utilizing the present state. The anarchists reject this.

https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1917/staterev/ch06.htm

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What does "Commune" entail in this context?

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 month ago (30 children)

A Commune, in Marxist-Leninist theory, is a revolutionary political-economic structure where the proletariat collectively owns and democratically controls the means of production, abolishing capitalist hierarchies and bourgeois state machinery. It is rooted in the analysis of the Paris Commune of 1871 by Marx and Engels who saw it as a prototype of proletarian dictatorship. The key aspect of a commune is that it embodies direct workers' democracy, dismantling the separation between state and society. Lenin further expanded this as a transitional framework where a decentralized network of soviets composed of laborers self-govern, eroding class distinctions and advancing toward a stateless, classless communism.

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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 month ago (9 children)

You better not be sending me into recursion when I click this

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 month ago

Lmao, I've tried to minimize my copy-pasting of comments over time so there's more links in my comments now, haha.

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I'm clicking all the "read my other comment" links until I've basically read Capital Vol. 1 in its entirety through Lemmy posts.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago

You'll get vol. 2 and vol. 3 from watching all the dang lectures we link too.

Here's the latest one I linked, Michael Hudson on Marxism, Parasites, and Debt Cancellation

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