Politics have consequences. When elected politicians vote to arms ongoing genocide, people die. When elected politicians vote to deny people healthcare, people die. Politics and its consequences is inherently violent. 
. If you want nonviolence take up rattan basket weaving
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Liberals are much worse than actual pacifists because they make tons of exceptions whenever it's systemic violence conducted by a bourgeois state, which is literally the worst time to make exceptions.
I think part of the 10% of Americans who never approved of Bush included some of those old hippie cranks who I respect infinitely more than the people who style themselves as "nonviolent," while opposing every war except the current one. Possibly a hot take but simply being like, "violence is bad" consistently, with zero broader understanding of politics and no consideration of material conditions, even when the news says otherwise and even when the state or the "good guys" are doing it, is enough to make you more correct about geopolitics than the vast majority of Americans.
My problem with pacifism is even if you're unwilling to commit violence upon others, they are still willing to commit violence upon you. Some people's hearts cannot be changed and we give those people the
I used to be more sympathetic to the concept until I studied more of the history of countries outside the imperial core, which disavowed me of any notions of "the good guys always win," or that violence towards nonviolent movements always results in public support.
By the same token, I have infinitely more respect for people who oppose both Russia and Israel than those who oppose Russia while making excuses for Israel.