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[–] Abracadaniel@hexbear.net 54 points 1 month ago (2 children)

okay so the guy with the rifle was not a would-be shooter?

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 35 points 1 month ago

Apparently not, but the cops are charging him with murder because reasons

[–] Rey_McSriff@hexbear.net 20 points 1 month ago (4 children)

tbf if I saw someone running around with a rifle at any protest these days I'd assume they were there to kill people

[–] WoodScientist@hexbear.net 31 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I would assume they're just there to protect protesters from police. Generally shooting at cops is a bad idea, but having enough armed protesters around does cause cops to be on their best behavior. Remember that protester a few days ago in LA that was being assaulted by police on horseback? That's the kind of situation where someone would have been fully justified to shoot those officers, an act of simple self defense.

It's rare for cops to actually shoot openly armed people. They're only incredibly trigger-happy against unarmed people. Every cop knows that it doesn't matter if the law is on their side. If a cop starts shooting at someone that is themselves heavily armed, there's a good chance that cop isn't going home tonight. Having armed protesters prevents police from taking lives with impunity.

[–] Rey_McSriff@hexbear.net 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sure, but if I'm in SLC at an unorganized protest (or one that was organized by liberals), my first thought on seeing a rifle isn't "I'm glad the people's vanguard is here protecting us," it's "oh shit, a chud is here to kill the boogeymen he heard about on the internet"

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

you obviously haven't been to Utah much

[–] Rey_McSriff@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago

You're so right, I spend more time up north in Liberal Mountain, Idaho

[–] tocopherol@hexbear.net 30 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The person shot had been at protests armed before, if security was actually familiar with leftist protesters they wouldn't have been so quick to judge.

Image from bluesky of the armed "potential mass shooter"(from a different protest):

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

idiotic. This is an open carry state where dozens of people are armed. He wasn't "running around" and he didn't have his rifle raised either. There's footage of it. He's just walking around with the gun in a resting position when they shoot at him

[–] Rey_McSriff@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

idiotic

Yeah, I should assume any armed amerikkkan I see on the street is doing it for my safety

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

if they're dressed up as an anti-fascist marching on your side, then yeah pretty much

[–] Rey_McSriff@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't know what to say other than I don't trust fellow yanks with guns who I don't know. I wouldn't have gone wild west on anyone like the "peacekeepers" did but I'm not going to be able to tell at a glance that someone wearing all black is a "good guy"

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well I'm sure there were about 500 armed people at that march alone, Utah is open carry. I personally approve of demonstrations of armed force at our protests, although I think it should be more regimented and disciplined than anarchists meandering around with their own guns

[–] Rey_McSriff@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago

Yeah, I don't doubt there were lots of guns out that day, but I 100% agree with you that if you're going to open carry at a protest like this, do it with an organized group. Not blaming this particular individual for getting shot or getting others shot, but I think the confusion is understandable

[–] pinesolcario@lemy.lol -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I’m a liberal gun owner. Am I amerikkkan now too? Such a stupid two brain cell fighting for third place comment.

[–] Rey_McSriff@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Would be a lot cooler if you were a communist gun owner

[–] pinesolcario@lemy.lol -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Rey_McSriff@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] CocteauChameleons@hexbear.net 14 points 1 month ago

Chuds never applied that logic to that fascist cracker that Ill not name