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[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Good. Israel and the United States are fucking rogue states that have torn up the international order. If all that's left is the law of the jungle then Iran needs nuclear weapons as Israel is clearly able to do what it likes, including genocide and use of nuclear warheads. And Iran needs a viable deterrent to ensure that Israel will suffer massive consequences if it tried anything

[–] Yurnero91@feddit.org 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Wasn't it Russia that has torn up the international order?

Then followed Isreal and then USA.

But maybe you like Russia and therefore your memory is a lil' bad 😊

[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don't think anyone disputed that Russia committed a war crime against Ukraine by invading. However literally no Western country is saying the same thing about Israel and the US's completely unprovoked attack on Iran.

Not to mention Israel's ongoing genocide in Gaza which the West are doing nothing to stop even though they are obliged to act under the Genocide Convention.

[–] andyburke@fedia.io 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You don't need to fight. You are both right. No one in this thread is in the club making these decisions.

[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I agree we are just micturating in the wind but US corporate media is taken with a delusional bloodlust and it's important to respond with facts in the face of manufactured consent for bombing a country that is no threat to the US.

[–] andyburke@fedia.io 7 points 2 days ago

The sooner you realize you, me, and the other person are all on the same team, the sooner you will start to be able to change minds.

The person you're talking to probably knows all about corporate media and its influence. Just like you probably know a bunch about state run media and its influence.