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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/46890078

cross-posted from: https://rss.ponder.cat/post/216477

ICE said the Canadian was found unresponsive Monday at the Federal Detention Center in Miami and was attended to by medical staff, but was pronounced dead the same day.


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[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 176 points 12 hours ago (5 children)

If Iran was holding a US citizen against their will and let them die in custody, we would drop a nuke on them.

I hope Canada takes the opportunity to punish us hard for this shit.

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

Unless they are a Democrat

[–] SpaceRanger13@lemm.ee 32 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I dunno about a nuke. Maybe a stern glance in the direction of Iran. I know it's not quite the same since Saudi Arabia is our frienemy after 9/11, but this US administration's support is probably more based on skin color than anything.

Jamal Khashoggi

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 hours ago

A tactical nuke on a certain house with white paint? You know the one 😏

[–] Windswept@lemmy.world 42 points 11 hours ago (2 children)
[–] dastanktal@lemmy.ml 38 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Iran has not confirmed that they have him in detention and this was a spy. They literally caught a US spy. Do you know what we do to people we catch spying in the US?

This is quite literally not the same thing. The US has accidentally killed a Canadian tourist. If a part of Iran's government killed a US citizen we'd use that to launch War today.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 15 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

It’s not the same thing, but he was a permanent resident for over thirty years

[–] dastanktal@lemmy.ml 10 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

~~That's an interesting part of the story but in this case this Canadian tourist hadn't live in the country at all. I feel like the speed at which he entered the US and then died indicates a problem with us custody and handling.

Like I feel like it's more egregious if you lived in the country for 30 years and then you know were prosecuted as a spy but to just die from being detained is total bullshit~~

Misread something not valid.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

What case are you talking about? The article in this post is about a Canadian permanent resident of the US.

[–] dastanktal@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 hours ago

Sorry I read something else and got confused I'll go correct the information later.

[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 0 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

Do you know what we do to people we catch spying in the US?

Yes, we put them in prison.

[–] rhvg@lemmy.world 21 points 10 hours ago

If it’s a spy for Russia, we put him in the White House

[–] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Damn that's a wild looking prison

[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works -4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Oh look who learned a new word

[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works -1 points 8 hours ago

You're just so formulaic

[–] dastanktal@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Someone's never heard of Gitmo Bay 🤣

[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 0 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] dastanktal@lemmy.ml 6 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Ahmed al Halabi

This guy was actually acquitted of the charges but was still horribly abused inside the prison: Captain James Yee

Mohammed Hashim

Omar Ahmed Khadr

I mean these are just a few. This wasn't even hard to look up. Did you not expect that there would be actual spies in one of the US terrorist torture camps?

[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

zero for four, what else ya got?

Ahmed al Halabi

Accused of spying on gitmo. Was imprisoned in Florida, IIRC

Captain James Yee

Also accused of spying on gitmo. Imprisoned in South Carolina for a time.

Mohammed Hashim

Charged, imprisoned, and released within a year.

Omar Ahmed Khadr

not spy. Either terrorist or irregular fighter, take your pick.

[–] dastanktal@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

hurr durr none of these were spies. They were only accused of spying

[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works -1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

... and weren't imprisoned in Gitmo

[–] dastanktal@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Ugh.

  • Omar Khadr: Pled guilty to spying in Canada in 2010 was held in gitmo Bay before being transferred to Canada

Seriously I don't know why I'm I'm even dignifying this with a response because we both know that they hold people there that they accuse of being terrorist or Spies of terrorists without any due process and so we don't know their names typically and we don't know why they're in there other than what the US government will tell us which isn't much.

We also have multiple officials from that time admitting that the president and most the administration from that time knew that most of the people put in gitmo Bay were innocent And kept there because it was politically expedient. And that's just according to Wikipedia.

Still it's not a far stretch to imagine that United States has imprisoned foreign spies in places like gitmo Bay without informing the public.

[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works -2 points 9 hours ago

was.

I asked which spies are in gitmo. There aren't any. There hasn't been a policy of regularly putting spies in gitmo.

We treat spies like criminals and put them in federal prison if found guilty. You act like they all got transferred from the federal system TO gitmo.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 11 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I get it dude, but the US citizen in Iran was a CIA agent fucking with the country.

[–] Windswept@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

I wasn't really making any kind of judgement about it. I just read your comment and thought "I'm pretty sure that's already happened" so I looked it up.

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 9 points 10 hours ago

It sorta depends on what kind of US citizen they are. As one example, US-Israeli citizens are precious innocents who must be protected at all costs, but US-Palestinian citizens are fine as collateral.

[–] Zenith@lemm.ee 7 points 11 hours ago

No way, we haven’t given much of a fuck about this sort of thing for decades now