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[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 76 points 4 days ago (32 children)

“With respect to the Jewish communities that I represent, I think our nominee is going to have to convince folks that he is prepared to aggressively address the rise in antisemitism in the city of New York, which has been an unacceptable development,” Jeffries said on ABC’s This Week.

i seriously hope hakeem jeffries looses whatever elections he tries to run in.

[–] Photuris@lemmy.ml 57 points 4 days ago (27 children)

As far as I’ve seen thus far, Mamdani:

  • has never espoused an antisemitic opinion
  • has affirmed his commitment to ensuring that Jewish New Yorkers are protected from heinous antisemitic attacks, and also has condemned the attack against Israeli embassy staffers in DC
  • has high-profile Jewish allies and backers for his campaign
  • has condemned Hamas’ attack on Israel on October 7th in very clear and direct terms
  • stated that Muslims and Jews in New York can be an example to the world in how they communicate and get along with each other
  • is not running to be mayor of Israel

Also, Jeffries sucks.

I think it’s high time we take over the Democratic Party and drive these dinosaurs out, with pitchforks if need be.

[–] Chana@hexbear.net 53 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (5 children)

The Democratic Party cannot be taken over. It is not a democratic institution. You could have 70% of elected Democrats agreeing with you and being variations on Mamdani and "party leadership" wouod still be outside your hands and they would still be working against you and there would be nothing you could do to advance your position in the party. It is a private, bourgeois institutional governed by ita donors and those donors' supplicants.

More practically, what you could hope for is entryism and then a split. That is the basic claimed premise by DemSocs in DSA who argue for running as Dems. Unsurprisingly, this is a Trotskyist tactic and basically never works. But trying and failing in a very public way may still be a boon for radicalization and growing our ranks.

But only with discipline (or luck)! The Dems will try to coopt everything appealing about DemSocs without stepping on the toes of donors. And that cooption begins with Mamdani himself, who will be constantly pressured to soften his stances and be more lib. DSA has zero discipline whatsoever, so with someone like Mamdani one would have to depend on luck, i.e. just this one guy being principled. This is the DSA way and it is why they eat shit in 90% of their electoralism, they back candidates with no vetting and usually provide no support. But maybe they got lucky with this one guy.

[–] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 20 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Thank fuck PSL hasn't been doing entryism

[–] Chana@hexbear.net 18 points 4 days ago

It's a truly exhausting strategy. It takes so much work and for very little payoff. And often (usually?) it just makes everyone involved mad at each other and burned out, even worse off than before.

There are ways to make "foment a split" work if your goal is to enrich a particular group and then peel them off of a dead-end org to instead do good work. To me this only makes sense if that group basically already exists but is stuck being useless.

Some commie factions in DSA are basically doing this, knowingly or not, and with unclear success. All DSA factions are basically premised on exhausting their opposing factions as much as possible by being a (often fairly insufferable) advocate for their positions. Obviously the libs are the most guilty of this, they tolerate genocide and tokenize etc etc, but this sets the battleground up: keep opposing these libs within that group and tiring them out or go to another org where you don't have to deal with them, at least internally. If you do the former, you are a hair's breadtg from an entryist + split position, as you are not going to convince the libs, generally speaking, but you may eventually get them to force a split on some key issue, and when your faction is large enough to either take over the org or leave and form a new one.

Entryism is basically this same thing only less authentic because you don't even think of yourselves as truly part of the org, and instead try to join and take over as fundamentally external.

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