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I don't understand the appeal of "multipolarity" (lemmygrad.ml)

submitted 1 year ago by Lilybump@lemmygrad.ml to c/leftistinfighting@lemmygrad.ml

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Personally, I fail to see why many Marxist-Leninists support multipolarity. The primary goal of the Leninist movements has always been "workers of the world unite!" and not "non-US-aligned countries unite!".

To be clear, in saying this, I am not endorsing US-led unipolarity. I am just saying that multipolarity is not inherently good as some MLs suggest. For example, the world in 1914 and 1939 were without a doubt multipolar, and those both resulted in brutal world wars which killed millions.

Could somebody explain why people support multipolarity so much?

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[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What is to say that the anti-imperialist Russian Federation will not simply take the place of the United States upon its defeat?

Because China is going to eat both their lunch and there's nothing that can be done, short of the U.S. and Russia coordinating nuclear first strikes that somehow decapitate China's own nuclear capabilities, that would prevent it

We're already in a multi polar world, China just hasn't swung its dick around yet.

[–] Lilybump@lemmygrad.ml -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

We’re already in a multi polar world,

And it's a world mired in conflict, oppression, disease, anti-communism, and fascist tyranny. I'm not sure what the appeal is.

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

literally all of that is a result of U.S. and declining European influence. You don't see the appeal to an emerging communist superpower? Okay then

[–] davel@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The world was no less mired in those things during unipolarity, they just seldom affected people in the imperial core, so to us it looked like peace & prosperity.

[–] m532@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 year ago

What is worse, neoliberalism or fascism?