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[–] Carl@hexbear.net 62 points 1 day ago (5 children)

This is exactly what a lot of progressives were saying the past couple of years, that when normal people saw how brutal and gross the immigration policy they were voting for was they would lose their stomach for it. Trouble is the US doesn't change its policies based on the opinions of its citizenry.

[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

This is exactly what a lot of progressives were saying the past couple of years, that when normal people saw how brutal and gross the immigration policy they were voting for was they would lose their stomach for it.

That’s really dumb because it operates within the framework that chuds/neolibs are stupid, essentially taking their public opinions at face value.

Same line of logic that gets people to think hypocrisy or policy betrayal on non ethnic cleansing matters actually..matters. Hasan put it perfectly, if the reality that chuds want to live in doesn’t exist and is a complete fabrication, they would rather pretend it exists or conjure it up.

They exist on a different plane of existence and people who don’t regularly interact with them are not understanding what they’re dealing with

[–] Carl@hexbear.net 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

"Normal people" aren't chuds or neolibs though. "Normal people" pick their presidential candidate two weeks before they vote (if they even vote at all) based solely on vibes.

Alternate reality casting is extremely common though, I agree with that. I think it mostly manifests as a coping mechanism for politically-inclined people living in a country where on some level they know that their opinions and actions don't matter to the ruling class.

[–] axont@hexbear.net 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah I wanted to say this too. Normal people don't know or care. They might know who the president is but beyond that they do not give a shit. I'd be surprised if more than half of Americans recognize the name JD Vance. The average American is full of ambient bigotry, but they have no formed beliefs until the moment they try saying stuff out loud. The average person's political affiliation is a shrug and a vote for whoever their parents voted for.

Chuds are in their own fabricated reality, as are liberals. But that veil is only so thick and the average American isn't usually following the spectacle. Normal people are going to see people getting shot with rubber bullets and come to a conclusion that something's being done very wrong, there's a problem in how something is being handled. That kind of thing does get attention

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