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Image is from this article, of a Chilean copper quarry.

Title is a reference to Trump's social media post about copper, which was, as usual, mostly deranged.


Trying to follow Trump's administration is pretty difficult, but as of right now, he is threatening 30% tariffs on Mexico and the EU starting on August 1st, as well as new tariff announcements on a bunch of other countries (including, bizarrely, a 50% tariff on Brazil), and also apparently a 50% tariff on copper, which the US imports half its supply of and is, of course, a very important metal in many applications.

I'm not sure what the plan is to bring back domestic copper production beyond hoping that it just sorta works out, but prominent copper producers, such as Chile and Canada, seem both concerned and confused. Reuters had a line that made me chuckle:

Boric said he was awaiting official communication from the U.S. government, including whether the tariffs would include copper cathodes, and questioned "whether this will actually be implemented or not."

Big mood, Boric.


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[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 63 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (37 children)

Interesting reporting coming from both the Financial Times and Washington Post today.

Financial Times

Two people familiar with the conversation between Trump and Zelenskyy said the US president had asked his Ukrainian counterpart whether he could hit military targets deep inside Russia if he provided weapons capable of doing so.

“Volodymyr, can you hit Moscow? . . . Can you hit St Petersburg too?” Trump asked on the call, according to the people.

They said Zelenskyy replied: “Absolutely. We can if you give us the weapons.”

Trump signalled his backing for the idea, describing the strategy as intended to “make them [Russians] feel the pain” and force the Kremlin to the negotiating table, according to the two people briefed on the call.

During a meeting with US defence officials and intermediaries from Nato governments, Zelenskyy received a list of long-range strike systems that potentially could be made available to Ukraine via third-party transfers.

The arrangement would allow Trump to sidestep the need for Congressional approval on direct US military aid by authorising weapons sales to European allies, who would then pass the systems on to Kyiv.

The Ukrainians had asked for Tomahawk missiles, precision strike cruise missiles with a range of around 1,600km. But the Trump administration — like the Biden administration — had concerns about Ukraine’s lack of restraint, said a person familiar with the list shared with Zelenskyy.

Washington Post

What Trump didn’t talk about is that the military assistance might also include authorization for some powerful new offensive weapons. I’m told by a source involved in the decision that this is likely to include permission to use the 18 long-range ATACMS missiles now in Ukraine at their full range of 300 kilometers (about 190 miles). That wouldn’t reach all the way to Moscow or St. Petersburg, but it would strike military bases, airfields and supply depots deep inside Russia that are now out of range. The package might also include more ATACMS.

Trump also considered sending Tomahawk cruise missiles, the same weapons fired against Iranian targets last month. If fired from Ukraine, these could hit Moscow and St. Petersburg, and they were included in discussion as late as Friday. But the Tomahawks are off the delivery list for now, I’m told. They could be deployed later if Trump wants even more leverage.

Trump’s determination to squeeze Putin was conveyed in a conversation last week with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, a source told me. Trump asked Zelensky why he didn’t hit Moscow. “We can if you give us the weapons,” Zelensky said. Trump said Ukraine needed to put more pressure on Putin, not just Moscow but St. Petersburg, too.

Trump decided to escalate for three reasons, according to a source familiar with administration discussions. First, he believed that Putin was disrespecting him, feigning a readiness to make peace but ignoring the U.S. president’s call for a ceasefire. Second, he saw the efficacy of U.S. military power in the use of B-2 bombers and Tomahawk missiles against Iran. And third, he thought Putin would only negotiate if threatened with greater force. As the Russians like to say, Trump decided to “escalate to de-escalate.”

So TLAMs (Tomahawk Land Attack cruise Missiles) are up for consideration for Ukraine, but currently not being sent. More ATACMS are likely on the way, to supplement the current 18 ATACMS missiles Ukraine has. No mention of JASSM or JASSM-ER air launched stealth subsonic cruise missiles or PrSM ballistic missiles, or SM-6 in a surface to surface role. JASSM is interesting because the US could send the shorter range older variants for now, as a test run of sort, and there are many of these in the stockpiles likely set to expire soon.

The point about Trump getting to see the effectiveness of US military power in Israeli and US airstrikes on Iran is something very much overlooked. Part of the Trump right wing is full of useful idiots and grifters that don't understand basic science, think that the weather is controlled by the CIA, that F-35s don't work, don't understand stealth technology, vastly understate US military capabilities as the US military was "destroyed by woke", etc. Laura Loomer, Matt Gaetz, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Tucker Carlson, Tulsi Gabbard and Pete Hegseth to an extent, etc. Those kind of grifters. They got shut down and shut out in real time, and now Marco Rubio and US Military Generals are in with Trump, given the events of the past few weeks, they essentially proved themselves to Trump. One could say that Rubio is effectively president here. This is very concerning, an emboldened Rubio, Trump, and US Military may choose to throw their weight around on other issues and in other theatres.

[–] sexywheat@hexbear.net 48 points 1 day ago (6 children)

The "Trump is a Russian Puppet / Asset" liberals have been awfully quiet about this.

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 46 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Because they like it. Trump is acting presidential as hell!

Liberals in power don’t actually believe trump is a Russian asset and traitor, or else he would have been shot and dumped in the ocean long ago. They keep up the narrative because it’s a way to pressure Trump to take more aggressive stances against Russia (and an excuse to scapegoat any failures of the Democrats to an external force). So this just vindicates their strategy, their strategy worked. Trump is being more aggressive than even Biden was, Russiagate did its job.

Expecting the libs to reverse course at this point is missing the point of the entire thing and taking their hypocrisy and cynicism at face value instead of seeing its utility.

[–] john_brown@hexbear.net 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Always funny to point out to a lib who brings up RUSHA RUSHA RUSHA that before Trump was even the pick, the Clinton campaign's internal strategy was to pied piper Trump through the primary, then their primary attack against him would be that he's a Russian asset. This was before they bought the Steele dossier, they just right off the bat said they wanted to run against Trump and call him Russian.

[–] Jabril@hexbear.net 22 points 1 day ago

Imagining a Brady bunch deep fake of Trump saying rusha rusha rusha,

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