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Image is from this article, of a Chilean copper quarry.

Title is a reference to Trump's social media post about copper, which was, as usual, mostly deranged.


Trying to follow Trump's administration is pretty difficult, but as of right now, he is threatening 30% tariffs on Mexico and the EU starting on August 1st, as well as new tariff announcements on a bunch of other countries (including, bizarrely, a 50% tariff on Brazil), and also apparently a 50% tariff on copper, which the US imports half its supply of and is, of course, a very important metal in many applications.

I'm not sure what the plan is to bring back domestic copper production beyond hoping that it just sorta works out, but prominent copper producers, such as Chile and Canada, seem both concerned and confused. Reuters had a line that made me chuckle:

Boric said he was awaiting official communication from the U.S. government, including whether the tariffs would include copper cathodes, and questioned "whether this will actually be implemented or not."

Big mood, Boric.


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[–] CleverOleg@hexbear.net 11 points 40 minutes ago* (last edited 39 minutes ago) (1 children)

John MacArthur, pastor of the Grace Community Church megachurch and founder of Grace to You Ministries is dead at 86

crab-party crab-party crab-party crab-party crab-party packwatch packwatch packwatch packwatch packwatch

Most of you who were not raised in American Evangelicalism probably don’t know who this bozo was, but for those who were, please celebrate with me!

[–] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 5 points 27 minutes ago* (last edited 26 minutes ago)

I may not have been raised Evangelical but I will always celebrate the death of one of these hypocritical hateful zionist nazi demons

crab-party

[–] Lisitsyn@hexbear.net 9 points 57 minutes ago

Today: Pro-Palestine demo in Tallinn, Estonia

Police were present, no arrests made as far i know right now. Police did seemingly question the organisers and i saw two extra police cars roll up near the end (totalling three), don't know if that was coincidental or not. A hundred or two were present. Saw a guy with an EFF cap there which was cool, a few anarchists as well. Screamed "the Estonian flag is occupation!", i love 'em.

Photographer/source: Ken Mürk/ERR; Galerii: Palestiina toetajad korraldasid Tallinnas meeleavalduse

[–] miz@hexbear.net 20 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Kamal Adwan Hospital chief ‘starved, tortured, isolated’ in Israeli[sic] jail | The Cradle

Dr Hussam Abu Safia’s condition has worsened since he was abducted and jailed by Israel[sic] in December last year

[–] HarryLime@hexbear.net 26 points 2 hours ago (2 children)
[–] jack@hexbear.net 15 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

They were paving the rose garden today. Maybe they unearthed an ancient evil?

[–] Lisitsyn@hexbear.net 10 points 1 hour ago

they uncovered the oldest vault

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 22 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] QuillcrestFalconer@hexbear.net 1 points 3 minutes ago

Apparently it was part of the US-China deal. I think in exchange for rare earths

[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 32 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (10 children)

Interesting reporting coming from both the Financial Times and Washington Post today.

Financial Times

Two people familiar with the conversation between Trump and Zelenskyy said the US president had asked his Ukrainian counterpart whether he could hit military targets deep inside Russia if he provided weapons capable of doing so.

“Volodymyr, can you hit Moscow? . . . Can you hit St Petersburg too?” Trump asked on the call, according to the people.

They said Zelenskyy replied: “Absolutely. We can if you give us the weapons.”

Trump signalled his backing for the idea, describing the strategy as intended to “make them [Russians] feel the pain” and force the Kremlin to the negotiating table, according to the two people briefed on the call.

During a meeting with US defence officials and intermediaries from Nato governments, Zelenskyy received a list of long-range strike systems that potentially could be made available to Ukraine via third-party transfers.

The arrangement would allow Trump to sidestep the need for Congressional approval on direct US military aid by authorising weapons sales to European allies, who would then pass the systems on to Kyiv.

The Ukrainians had asked for Tomahawk missiles, precision strike cruise missiles with a range of around 1,600km. But the Trump administration — like the Biden administration — had concerns about Ukraine’s lack of restraint, said a person familiar with the list shared with Zelenskyy.

Washington Post

What Trump didn’t talk about is that the military assistance might also include authorization for some powerful new offensive weapons. I’m told by a source involved in the decision that this is likely to include permission to use the 18 long-range ATACMS missiles now in Ukraine at their full range of 300 kilometers (about 190 miles). That wouldn’t reach all the way to Moscow or St. Petersburg, but it would strike military bases, airfields and supply depots deep inside Russia that are now out of range. The package might also include more ATACMS.

Trump also considered sending Tomahawk cruise missiles, the same weapons fired against Iranian targets last month. If fired from Ukraine, these could hit Moscow and St. Petersburg, and they were included in discussion as late as Friday. But the Tomahawks are off the delivery list for now, I’m told. They could be deployed later if Trump wants even more leverage.

Trump’s determination to squeeze Putin was conveyed in a conversation last week with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, a source told me. Trump asked Zelensky why he didn’t hit Moscow. “We can if you give us the weapons,” Zelensky said. Trump said Ukraine needed to put more pressure on Putin, not just Moscow but St. Petersburg, too.

Trump decided to escalate for three reasons, according to a source familiar with administration discussions. First, he believed that Putin was disrespecting him, feigning a readiness to make peace but ignoring the U.S. president’s call for a ceasefire. Second, he saw the efficacy of U.S. military power in the use of B-2 bombers and Tomahawk missiles against Iran. And third, he thought Putin would only negotiate if threatened with greater force. As the Russians like to say, Trump decided to “escalate to de-escalate.”

So TLAMs (Tomahawk Land Attack cruise Missiles) are up for consideration for Ukraine, but currently not being sent. More ATACMS are likely on the way, to supplement the current 18 ATACMS missiles Ukraine has. No mention of JASSM or JASSM-ER air launched stealth subsonic cruise missiles or PrSM ballistic missiles, or SM-6 in a surface to surface role. JASSM is interesting because the US could send the shorter range older variants for now, as a test run of sort, and there are many of these in the stockpiles likely set to expire soon.

The point about Trump getting to see the effectiveness of US military power in Israeli and US airstrikes on Iran is something very much overlooked. Part of the Trump right wing is full of useful idiots and grifters that don't understand basic science, think that the weather is controlled by the CIA, that F-35s don't work, don't understand stealth technology, vastly understate US military capabilities as the US military was "destroyed by woke", etc. Laura Loomer, Matt Gaetz, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Tucker Carlson, Tulsi Gabbard and Pete Hegseth to an extent, etc. Those kind of grifters. They got shut down and shut out in real time, and now Marco Rubio and US Military Generals are in with Trump, given the events of the past few weeks, they essentially proved themselves to Trump. One could say that Rubio is effectively president here. This is very concerning, an emboldened Rubio, Trump, and US Military may choose to throw their weight around on other issues and in other theatres.

[–] Parzivus@hexbear.net 6 points 52 minutes ago

Someone at the White House is a posadist

[–] Tervell@hexbear.net 10 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Y'know, I wouldn't exactly consider US military command to not be grifters, given the whole history of US military procurement, and I'm not sure why we should consider them to be significantly smarter than the typical US politicans given the performance of the US military in, like, everything since WW2? It isn't '91 anymore, the guys "understating" capabilities may well be right for the wrong reasons (like, the military facing a recruitment crisis is objective fact, and is already having effects - but it's obviously not because of "woke").

Does the Tomahawk have ground-launch capability? From what I read, there was the old Gryphon system from the Cold War, but that was dismantled as per the INF treaty, and more recently, with the INF becoming irrelevant - the Typhon system, but that was only introduced in 2023, and there's still just a handful of them around so none are going to Ukraine. Tomahawks don't have air-launch capability either, so... this is entirely irrelevant to Ukraine?

The same applies to the SM-6, although that one has an air-launch variant in development, but only the F/A-18E/F seems to be capable of carrying it, and it's too fresh of a system to send to Ukraine. So again, not relevant.

JASSMs could work, but how likely is it that Ukrainian F-16s could actually manage to successfully launch them? Just recently an F-16 went down down while doing air defense, has the F-16 fleet been able to fly any particularly extensive bombing missions?

Do we have precise numbers on how many ATACMS were sent until now? The Ukrainians did manage to destroy some air-defense systems and planes with them, but how effective that counts as really depends on the numbers they expended for such results. What I could find was "at least 500", which they have mostly expended by now. The Russians have also shown themselves to be capable of both intercepting ATACMS, and efficiently destroying the launchers themselves, so again - if the Ukrainians receive them, could they actually perform more than a handful of effective attacks with them before their launchers get tracked down and got?

The PrSM has been in service for a year-and-a-half, I highly doubt they'd send something this new. It literally just entered mass production, and the numbers for it up until now that I could find seem to be 42 (in 2023) + 110 missiles (2024), and some proportion of the 230 planned for 2025 - so, let's call it ≈270 up until July of 2025, and some of these would have been used up in testing and military exercises. Hardly a sufficiently large stockpile for the US to start handing these out willy-nilly, and the more advanced Increment 2 phase of the procurement process has already been delayed once.

[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 4 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

The Typhon launchers you mentioned + Rouge Fires (four wheeled unmanned ground vehicle capable of launching a single TLAM) can launch TLAMs. Though the Marines cancelled the TLAM capable Rouge Fires.

The key part of the Typhon is the Mk 70 Payload Delivery System, which is a large shipping container containing four Mk 41 Vertical Launch System canisters, the same VLS used to launch TLAMs from inside guided missile destroyers/cruisers, but inside a shipping container. The US equivalent to the Russian Club-K system, but a lot bigger. The Mk 70 containers are also designed to be deployed on the rear decks of littoral ships to give them TLAM capability. Sending a bunch of Mk 70 containerised systems to Ukraine is not a complicated endeavour, should the decision be made. Some Mk 41 VLS canisters could also be given standalone, the US conducted a ground launched TLAM test right after exiting the INF treaty with some standalone Mk 41 VLS canisters. If Ukraine were to get SM-6, it would be launched from Mk 41 VLS canisters, they don't have the aircraft to launch them, as you said. The anti ship version of the JASSM, the LRASM, can also be launched from Mk 41 VLS canisters.

JASSM launches should possible, if Ukraine can launch Storm Shadow/SCALP-EG cruise missiles from Su-24s, they can launch JASSMs from F-16s. High altitude launch from the rear lines while being escorted by other aircraft with anti radiation missiles to suppress ground based air defence. F-16s, along with MiG 29s and Su-27s, have been used for low altitude frontline bombing runs with glide bombs and rocket assisted bombs (GBU-39s for the F-16 in particular), the aircraft approaches at low altitude, quickly climbs, lobs the bombs, and quickly descends. High risk missions and the maximum range of the bombs is quite limited. The F-16s have been doing this for months, and one aircraft has been lost to Russian ground based air defence. Two other F-16s have been lost on air defence missions, and one was lost to friendly fire.

ATACMS, exact numbers are unknown. However, by the time Ukraine was allowed to strike into internationally recognised Russian territory by the Biden administration, they had already expended the vast majority of ATACMS, and only had around 50-60 left. They only have 15-20 left now. The concern is that more ATACMS are delivered, without any restrictions.

Fully agree with you on PrSM, I think it's quite unlikely. But the hypothetical possibly is still there.

[–] Tervell@hexbear.net 1 points 32 minutes ago* (last edited 26 minutes ago)

Mk 70 containerised systems

But wouldn't such systems be incredibly vulnerable? The containers themselves obviously cannot move - you need to be on a vehicle, but ships are big and not very fast-moving. Ground-based launchers are really key to allow them to reposition and conceal themselves in order to avoid being taken out by counter-battery fire, or airstrikes, or drones, or ballistics. Ships seem like they'd be sitting ducks.

The Typhon system also includes a battery operations center - I assume this is pretty important, and just the containers without all the extra stuff related to programming and commanding the missiles won't be very effective.

Sending a bunch of Mk 70 containerised systems to Ukraine is not a complicated endeavour

Sending them might not be complicated - actually getting them to the country and using them is different. The Russians have struck numerous Ukrainian ammunition sites, including some alleged strikes on Western shipments. These containers are pretty big, and would likely attract attention. I guess the idea is to commit perfidy and disguise them as regular civilian cargo, but the Russians have already struck several vessels carrying grain (according to the Ukrainians of course), so they're not above just blowing up anything suspicious.

Bringing them by sea on the whole doesn't seem likely (in fact, isn't the Black Sea extensively mined at this point, at least around the Ukrainian shore?). I guess you could try bringing them via trucks over the Romanian border, straight to Odessa or something like that? But can regular civilian-seeming trucks carry such heavy containers? The US military itself is using one of its heavier models of truck for the Typhon.

The F-16s have been doing this for months, and one aircraft has been lost to Russian ground based air defence

Have they inflicted much actual damage? You're not at as much risk if you're not lobbing bombs at actually important targets, and the ability of Russian infantry to keep advancing doesn't seem to indicate they're being suppressed much by bombardment.

[–] sexywheat@hexbear.net 18 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

The "Trump is a Russian Puppet / Asset" liberals have been awfully quiet about this.

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 13 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Because they like it. Trump is acting presidential as hell!

Liberals in power don’t actually believe trump is a Russian asset and traitor, or else he would have been shot and dumped in the ocean long ago. They keep up the narrative because it’s a way to pressure Trump to take more aggressive stances against Russia (and an excuse to scapegoat any failures of the Democrats to an external force). So this just vindicates their strategy, their strategy worked. Trump is being more aggressive than even Biden was, Russiagate did its job.

Expecting the libs to reverse course at this point is missing the point of the entire thing and taking their hypocrisy and cynicism at face value instead of seeing its utility.

[–] john_brown@hexbear.net 6 points 59 minutes ago (1 children)

Always funny to point out to a lib who brings up RUSHA RUSHA RUSHA that before Trump was even the pick, the Clinton campaign's internal strategy was to pied piper Trump through the primary, then their primary attack against him would be that he's a Russian asset. This was before they bought the Steele dossier, they just right off the bat said they wanted to run against Trump and call him Russian.

[–] Jabril@hexbear.net 4 points 35 minutes ago

Imagining a Brady bunch deep fake of Trump saying rusha rusha rusha,

[–] jack@hexbear.net 9 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 58 minutes ago)

I think the main rhetoric is that Putin has gotten what he wanted and has now dumped Trump. This narrative will reverse as soon as convenient.

[–] grandepequeno@hexbear.net 12 points 2 hours ago

Goddamn someone better harden his heart

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 24 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

This is unhinged. If Ukraine hits Moscow Russia will no longer have any motivation to hold back and Ukraine will cease to exist. Absolutely death cult idea. Which is exactly what makes it so believable

[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 18 points 3 hours ago (4 children)

Ukraine has already hit Moscow, multiple times. But crucially, with Ukrainian made and operated weapons, mainly Ukrainian one way attack drones and cruise missiles. Germany just financed the manufacturing of 500 such weapons, speculated to be AN-196 Liutyi one way attack drones that will be operational at the end of this month. The big difference would be US made, and operated to an extent, weapons being used to hit Moscow. That would be the large escalation. But although this is under consideration, these weapons haven't been sent yet.

As for Russia holding back, yes Russia hasn't given every male between the ages of 18-35 a gun and forced them into the trenches in Ukraine, and haven't turned every factory into a tank factory, a full existential wartime state. But is this a feasible option? And yes Russia has not used nuclear weapons. But what would the repercussions of such a move be? I think if Russia goes nuclear, even with tactical nuclear weapons, India and China would not be impressed, to say the least.

[–] BynarsAreOk@hexbear.net 3 points 42 minutes ago

think if Russia goes nuclear, even with tactical nuclear weapons, India and China would not be impressed, to say the least.

Absolutely not, this is why the DPRK alliance was crucial. China looks at Russia funny like that and they got 3 nuclear armed hostile countries near their borders.

India though is pretty much irrelevant in the long term, like they're literaly the #2 region to get fucked by climate change just second to Africa.

[–] FALGSConaut@hexbear.net 8 points 1 hour ago

Russia has definitely been holding back for most/all of this conflict, and they have quite a few options before it reaches "arm every male between 18 and 35" or nukes. As Z_poster said they haven't engaged in widespread bombing of civilian infrastructure like the Americans have done time and time again, they haven't attempted decapitation strikes after the first attempt to seize Kiev, they've used weapons like Oreshnik in limited demonstration strikes but nothing more. I believe Russia has options for escalation beyond jumping straight to mass mobilization or nuclear weapons

[–] Kieselguhr@hexbear.net 4 points 1 hour ago

surely Russia has plenty of non-nuclear but extremely devastating rockets in their arsenal, no? What happened to the Oreshniks?

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 11 points 2 hours ago

Russia has not decimated Kiev in the way that Baghdad was destroyed. Neither have they pursued decapitation strikes against political targets. Russia could do both, yet they restrain themselves.

[–] Eldungeon2@hexbear.net 14 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Still no consensus around the effectiveness of the 12 day war with Iran. Trust me bruh

[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 17 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (2 children)

There is consensus however, that Israeli and US aircraft were able to penetrate deeply into Iranian airspace. Even if the bombs dropped on Natanz and Fordow were ineffective, a B-2 bomber still had to be right above the facility to drop the bomb. Iranian media (Fars news) is now reporting that Israel tried to assassinate the Iranian Supreme National Security Council, and by extension the Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian, while they were in Tehran on the 16th June, similar to the assassination of Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah. This means, by Iran's own admission, that Israeli aircraft were flying over Tehran within 72 hours of the start of the war and attempting to assassinate top officials.

Which is the point I'm making. Many people in the alt media space, both on the left and right, were talking about how Israeli aircraft would never penetrate Iranian airspace, that the F-35s would be shot down and were piles of rusty junk, that Iran would shoot down the B-2 bombers over the nuclear sites as the B-2 would be right above them, that striking Iranian nuclear facilities would start WW3, etc. Trump would've been listening to right wingers in his circle, like Loomer and Gabbard for instance, that thought along these lines. None of that materialised. This will embolden the warhawk and neocon faction in Trump's circle, and Trump is likely to trust them more and sideline the likes of Loomer and Gabbard.

[–] Tervell@hexbear.net 10 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (2 children)

Is it this Fars report? Because that states nothing about aircraft specifically - why are we discounting ballistic missiles here? The Tucker interview also doesn't say anything, it was just Pezeshkian repeating "it's God's will when I die" like 5 times for some reason.

The problem with this whole narrative is that we are assuming bombing in Tehran to imply complete penetration of Iranian air defense. That implication makes sense if we are assuming that Israeli planes flew from Israel, through Syria, Iraq, and then half of Iran - but with those drop tanks getting fished out of the the Caspian, and accusations that Azerbaijan allowed its airspace to be used by Israel, it might imply a different story. Interestingly, June 16th specifically had a report of drones being detected flying in from Azerbaijani airspace

But anyways, presented with amateurish Paint drawing - these two paths of attack are very different, and imply very different things about Iranian air defense. Keeping close to the Turkish border, using geographic features to avoid radar, and then going through Azerbaijan, the Caspian and finally attacking Tehran from the North only implies a penetration of that specific sector of Iran. This is still a problem for the Iranians, but nowhere near the complete collapse of their air-defense network that is implied by F-35s flying the "direct" route.

We're also still not clear on exactly what munitions were used - trying to guess vague bomb or missile shapes based on grainy footage doesn't exactly seem like sound analysis to me. Use of shorter-ranged bombs implies greater penetration of Iranian airspace - usage of longer-ranged standoff munitions and cruise missiles doesn't indicate it to the same degree.

[–] Boise_Idaho@hexbear.net 4 points 34 minutes ago

I've seen some people make the same claim that the bombers flown through Azerbaijan, but I wasn't able to fully visualize what they meant until I saw your map.

[–] Jabril@hexbear.net 3 points 33 minutes ago

I like your drawing of a pipe

[–] Eldungeon2@hexbear.net 11 points 2 hours ago

I thought I saw on here that they had shot missiles from planes further west?? And, also, Iran doesn't really have an airforce like Russia does. I see your point, but the outcome, to me, still seems inconclusive. Especially the destruction in Isreal due to censorship

[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 8 points 3 hours ago

How much can we poke the bear before a nuke flys at DC?

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[–] OnceUponATimeInWeHo@hexbear.net 32 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (2 children)

Fighting has progressed into the city center of suwayda. HTS fighters, not content with killing and capturing Druze rebels, have begun humiliating them by shaving their beards and mustaches, as well as other acts of sectarian/cultural violence. CW for blood and corpses of people who are definitely not wearing military fatigues

https://t.me/enemywatch/38766

https://t.me/syriajusticearchive/7164

More forces are being massed in Aleppo

https://t.me/nayaforiraq/35020

Context

spoilerThe reality on the ground is now much clearer: Julani initially unleashed Bedouin militants against the Druze community. The Druze, however, resisted fiercely and pushed them back. In retaliation, the Bedouins, joined by HTS forces, launched a coordinated attack. But the Druze fighters ambushed them, inflicting significant casualties and proving their resilience. Throughout this escalation, Julani remained silent. The CIA openly declared its support for him, and Israel, too, said nothing. In fact, when it became apparent that HTS and allied factions were advancing within 28–30 km of the occupied Golan border, Israel finally intervened not to protect the Druze, but to bomb convoys that had crossed Israeli-defined red lines. Let it be clear: Israel did not target HTS to shield the Druze, but to protect its own border interests.

So far, over 100 Druze civilians and fighters have been killed. Many others have been kidnapped, and there is growing fear that they could be executed. On the other side, more than 200 HTS terrorists have been eliminated in the clashes. The Sawfar–Aley road has now been shut down, and the Lebanese Army has deployed to contain the situation. But the conflict is far from over, it is expanding.

Israeli airstrikes have already hit over 30 targets, with the latest ones focused on the Daraa countryside near Ezra city. Israel is using the pretext of border security to bomb Syrian air defenses and military installations, not to defend any civilian population. Meanwhile, HTS and their cyber Takfiri cheerleaders remain too blind or complicit to understand how they’re being used as pawns in a much larger game. Fighting is now spilling into civilian zones, including around Suwayda National Hospital, where doctors and staff have issued urgent pleas for the hospital to be neutralized and kept out of the conflict. This is not a local tribal clash. It is a multi-layered war involving HTS aggression, external intelligence coordination, and strategic bombing campaigns with the Druze community caught in the crossfire and left to defend themselves alone.

https://t.me/thecradlemedia/39607

Analysis from relatively resistance alligned Lebanese political commentator Khalil Nasrallah

spoiler“Events in Sweida took a different turn. The al-Jolani group repeated the same mistake of the coast, with the difference that the people of Sweida had prepared for a day when their homes would be violated. What happened was that, for the people of Sweida, the calculations of who was supported by Israel and who was not, and who aligned with Sharia law and who was not, were no longer subject to considerations. The issue became a matter of honor and dignity. Accordingly, they rose up in a manner that has begun to produce some repercussions. "Shaving off mustaches" and killing people, executions and burnings, "you pigs" and "you infidels," and kidnappings, targeting those with and without ties to the Hijra, led to the perception that the threat now lies with the Druze community. The one who committed the sin is the one who brought sectarian slogans to Sweida.“

Now Israeli Druze have crossed the border into Syria to protest, the IOF have moved further into Daraa, and there are rumors of Lebanese Druze forming a group to go fight in Syria (time is a flat circle)

The Lebanese army is taking measures to control the border and stop people going to fight

“The road closure and military deployment come amid heightened tensions in the region, which has a significant Druze population and borders Syria. The Lebanese Army is reportedly taking precautionary measures due to fears of potential spillover from the ongoing conflict in Suwayda, Syria.”

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[–] PalestinianDream@hexbear.net 12 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

this is escalating fast, i feel like i just saw reports of HTS tanks withdrawing was that before druze ambushed hts forces?

found this analysis on enemywatch telegram

spoiler___ 🗣 🇸🇾 Jolani's sectarian massacres serve the Zionist Oded Yinon plan

In the latest round of unhinged Wahabbi terrorists attacking minority groups in Syria, the Druze of Sweida find themselves in the crosshairs following the coastal massacres of Alawites.

However, the leadership who calls the shots are not entirely unhinged as the sectarian footsoldiers they send to commit the crimes. Given that normalization between Jolani and the illegitimate Zionist entity is all but official — and the entire "revolution" in Syria being a Zionist/NATO-orchestrated regime change plot from day one to achieve this normalization — everything Jolani does actually serves the Zionist and American strategy of "ordo ab chao" (order out of chaos, a Masonic motto).

This Zionist formula for Balkanization of Syria according to the Oded Yinon plan is simple:

  1. Install "former" ISIS commanders into power in Syria, give them suits and ties to "rebrand" their bloodsoaked image
  2. Have this new government led by merciless Wahabbi terrorists commit sectarian massacres at the behest of the Zionists who brought them to power in the first place
  3. The Zionist regime then pretends to cry crocodile tears for various minority groups which they pretend to have affinity for, such as the Druze (due to some — not all — Druze leaders being pro-Zionist).
  4. The Zionists use this as an excuse to occupy larger parts of Syrian land under the guise of protecting the Druze.

A proven case of the Zionist regime controlling both sides of the war: they control Jolani and the takfiri terrorists while also controlling the percentage of pro-Zionist Druze leaders who issue statements for the "israelis" to come and save them. There are some honorable Druze leaders who oppose the Zionist regime and issue statements noting that these massacres serve a suspicious Zionist agenda, but the Zionist regime puts the statements of pro-Zionist Druze leaders as a sort of colonial charter and permission to occupy more parts of Syria.

The tragic massacres of Druze in Sweida that are surfacing on social media are not just planned in Damascus by Jolani and his "former" ISIS thugs, but planned in "Tel Aviv" and Washington, D.C. too.

[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Israel just released more tank and APC plinking footage, and preliminary reports suggest that central Suwayda and the National Hospital just got bombed. So Israel is using this to destroy HTS armoured divisions, and bomb whatever they want.

Israel is using this to destroy HTS armoured divisions, and bomb whatever they want.

Flashbacks to December. Israelis have an ideological predisposition to bomb hospitals

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