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[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (28 children)

Neither. The US dollar can't readily be replaced as reserve currency.

The US Military sector will be fine.

You've done shitty things before, and had various states of psuedo fascism before.

US debt has always been meaningless (little more than a political buggaboo).

...and you've lost the world's respect before by voting in idiots, stripping away rights, and destroying minorities.

Nothing particularly new is happening.

Country's don't disappear so easily.

[–] Camzing@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Yes, the dollar remains entrenched. Yes, military dominance buys time. But the accumulation of social fragmentation, institutional decay, global distrust and unchecked corporate influence isn't new or far from inconsequential.

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Oh yeah, your democracy is fucked. But you asked about the "American Empire", which has hardly been about having a strong democracy.

In fact, in many ways Empire and Democracy are opposing forces.

Plenty of Empires have been undemocratic (you won't be the first). So is your question about Empire, or Democracy now?

[–] Camzing@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Empire and democracy often clash. The U.S. has long sold itself as both. If the democratic side collapses the whole narrative falls apart.

America is barely a democracy, you either choose Democrats or Republicans.

Both of them are horrible options, one clearly far worse than the other, but both suck.

In practice you have one more government to choose from than a dictatorship

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The narrative of being a corrupt "democracy" (that's really a plutocracy), which lives mostly by having the largest military industrial complex in the world and invading smaller resource rich nations?

You think THAT narrative is about to fall apart? How so?

As far as empires go, it's not even an original narrative. It's how most Empires have acted.

I mean you guys have always been manifest destiny, America's the best place on earth, gerrymandering, money is votes, corporations are people, donations are political free speech, loud, assholes. What are you saying is going to change?

[–] Camzing@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Cracks are widening. Empires don’t fall for being corrupt, they fall when the cost of holding it all together stops being worth it.

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Oh you think it's costing Trump and his cohorts too much money to be worth it anymore?

I don't think so - I think they've all massively increased their wealth whilst in office. So what cost are you talking about?

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