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Do Zionists seriously believe any opposition to Zionism is inherently antisemitic? (hexbear.net)
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I keep seeing Zionists claiming to be terrified at the Palestinian flag, or trying to say the phrase "free Palestine" is hate speech. Even now, when Gaza has been razed to the ground and hundreds of thousands are dead, the very words Gaza, Palestine, Hamas, intifada, etc are claimed to be intrinsically racist.

Do they actually believe this or are they just playing a silly language game? Like the Sartre quote about antisemites not believing in anything. How deep in the weeds does a Zionist have to be in to believe that the very existence of Palestinian people is comparable to hate groups like the klan? (Real comparison I've heard)

I know it's probably complicated, like some believe this and some are just using it as a tool to terminate critique, but does anyone have any further insight?

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[–] supafuzz@hexbear.net 43 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Fascists don't care if something is true, they care if it is rhetorically useful in the moment

[–] Biggay@hexbear.net 8 points 9 months ago

“Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”

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