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[–] AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@sh.itjust.works 23 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

You use a vpn to (hopefully) keep some privacy. To bypass geoblocks, to not let a state spy on you, to access webpages that are blocked in your country, to screw an ISP that is throttling your connection...

In general, there are lots of use cases for a trusted vpn that are not illegal. The problem with many vpn's is that they offer "privacy" when they are spying on you.

[–] CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Any commercial entity will allow the state to spy users.

Using somebody else's vpn is only useful for getting geoblocked content. If you want actual protection from the government you need it running on your own hardware and configured with a dead man's switch.

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Not true. I've been pirating for almost a decade from my VPN. One time it crashed and keep seeding, I got 108 notices from ISP.

Fixed the issue by binding my nic to the app, never had issues again.

[–] HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

And I'm sure the government hasn't complelled them to do anything in the background. The absence of logs doesn't mean shit, it's easy to ship them to whomever and never touch a disk.

[–] HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

It's not healthy being this paranoid. You're not being hunted by the government.

[–] Orygin@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago

The whole point of using a VPN for privacy is because you are paranoid of your isp and government

[–] CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Move that goal post a bit more. It's clear you haven't read up on how it's used all the time.

to not let a state spy on you

I'm not saying I or the average person on this forum needs to use these measures. The average person isn't hiding data or capable of hiding from the state completely. But do not advertise a commercial VPN as a tool to remain private from the state. It is a worthless tool unless the person on the other end is going to jail for you.

[–] HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What goalposts? I just called you crazy. I for one don't think the government is that sophisticated or competent given everything else they've done :p

[–] CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

Again, stuff like this already happens. It's not a secret. Governments regularly compel commercial entities and put them under gag order.

Your ignorant comments are irresponsible. I suspect anyone actually hiding from the state already knows this.