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[–] BussyGyatt@feddit.org 59 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Don't do this. Don't give me hope just so it can be dashed against the rocks again.

“What is apparent, however,” she wrote, “is that in their haste to construct the detention camp, the state did not consider alternative locations.”

there it is. the concentration camp was built in the wrong spot, that's the problem with it.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 27 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Environmentalists are good at figuring out how to make every spot the wrong spot. This can sometimes be a good thing

[–] BussyGyatt@feddit.org 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'd hope you're right but I'm literally afraid of hope atm.

[–] nysqin@feddit.org 19 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Václav Havel, Czech dissident, writer and statesman: “Hope is not the conviction that something will turn out well, but the certainty that something is worth doing no matter how it turns out.”

(Quoted from Rewriting the Future by Susan Kaye Quinn)

Reframing hope as a motivator instead of a passive expectation has helped me gain a bit of footing concerning my outlook on the state of the world.

There is worth in small changes like this one. It is alright to acknowledge it when good things are happening, even if they don't (immediately or ever) lead to the desired outcome.

Don't be disheartened.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The fuck else you want?! Judges don't get to make laws, take cases at will. They rule on what's in front of them.

[–] BussyGyatt@feddit.org 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

oh sorry I was assuming everyone else wanted no concentration camps too thats my bad

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Does no one read the fucking material?! The only item she brought before her was the ecological question. So yeah, that's why she ruled as she did. Judges can't go outside the scope of the case just because they feel like it.

[–] BussyGyatt@feddit.org 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

yeah i read it don't interrobang at me like i pissed in your cereal.

it's absurd that apparently the most compelling case to make against the existence of a Concentration Camp is a temporary injunction against new prisoners and construction on ecological grounds until the case can be brought before a supreme court that, i dunno about you, but i dont expect to be terribly sympathetic to the ecological argument quite frankly. and like, yeah the article does specify that they should dismantle the generators and stuff but like, uh... who's enforcing that, exactly? i mean what's stopping them from just, y'know. not complying. again. with another court order. about migrants. another one.

but like yeah for sure they got al capone on the tax evasion thing so sure if it sticks i guess. i'm already holding my breath in anticipation.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Take a step back, BIG breath. All the judge had to work with was the environmental issue, that's what the case challenged. She cannot bring additional challenges.

And YES, enforcement is the next question, and we all know how that will play out.