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[–] treehugger6@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Let's be honest. If Europe and the rest of the West wanted to stop Putin, they would.

[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Who? The governments? The people? I remember an ellection in france. Macron stopped military support for ukraine for months prior to the ellection cause ~30-40% were about to vote for Le Pen (2023?) And she was using the "we are spending too much in a special military operation that isnt of our concern" card. As soon as he was reellected (because, as i understand, the left bend itself for the "greater good"... or the "anything but le pen" good) military packages started flowing again.

(Correct me if im wrong, it has been a lpng time and... well... im not french)

I dont say that you are wrong though, i think europe has the potential to push russians back to the urals if they wanted it, but politics are complex and there are too many countries in which opinion on ukraine war is, to some extent, divided.

[–] treehugger6@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It's not that complex. Where there's a will there's a way. Funny that there is a will and possibility to help Israhell slaughter Palestinians (genocide still ongoing) and now Lebanese (looking at you, UK).

[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I only have deep conspiracy theories to answer to that...

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago

Not THAT simple

Russia still has nukes. Sure, because of internal corruption most army materiel hasn't had the maintenance required to keep if functioning, which is fatal to nukes. Nukes need millions of dollars in maintenance every year to keep them in functioning state, and it's very easy to siphon money away from end of the world weapons because who would find out when we're all dead, right?

It's fair to assume a whole lot of Russian nukes no longer work, but I'm sure more than enough still work, and that is a big problem

They can still start world war three and end it all for us. Putin is a despot who probably is out of touch with normal human beings, I see him capable of ending the world in a "if I can't have it nobody can" type move

I think you want to be careful with idiots like that

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 12 points 1 day ago

Absolutely, 100%. There's a reason those 17 (???) sanctions packages didn't hit all at once in February 2022.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

We could do more than we are, but when the nuclear sabre rattling inevitably comes, we realize we have more to lose than Russia does.

[–] albbi@piefed.ca 3 points 1 day ago

Also, this is the sort of thing China supports.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

They could if he isn't a lunatic that would rather have the world destroyed than lose. Whether or not that's the case, I don't know.