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what do anarchists think about the CIA openly saying they fw them? (lemmygrad.ml)

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a while ago i was in an argument with an anarchist about china and they hit me with the uyghur genocide argument so i sent them the article with the CIA guy openly admitting its a fabrication and they just didnt reply so im genuinely trying to wrap my mind around it. are they just in straight up denial and ignore it when people bring it up?

OR, the more horrifying alternative, are there some who just fw with the CIA for stopping ”red fascism”?? i know some people honestly believe communists should support ukraine due to ”morals” so maybe its possible?

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[–] DonLongSchlong@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

This is actually more about the CIA viewing anarchists as the weakest link and easy to exploit or misdirect and not about being guilty by association.

The CIA has historically created anarchist magazines and newspapers to bait them. They also liked to infiltrate anarchist organizations more because they are disorganized and more based around individualist "morals" rather than materialism.

[–] CanaryFeigned@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 14 hours ago

You aren't wrong. Our Anarchist movements are currently being infiltrated by a certain flavor of blue and a touch of yellow, but I can't think of a way to actually do anything against it. They use plausible half-truths that I can't simply deny, but an actually nuanced argument would get me eliminated.

And being a martyr for such a cause is not productive, because the headline would read: "Mentally insane woman defends Putin's Russia"

When my family hates Putin for selling out the USSR and they know it, there's a propaganda channel aimed for boomers and they do literally use that talking point to appeal to ex-soviet citizens. They're quite clever I hate it. But to Anarchists truth is often black and white. Ala Big country attacks on small country, big country bad. It is actually a lot more nuanced than that.

Anarchist are like Skull Face from MGS. Big ambitions, toddler discipline.

"Waaah English bad language gonna ban English and fix the world!!"

"Waaah give every nation a WMD!!!"

What even is a Nation? Why Isn't there a Székely Republic? What about Basques Republic? Should they have WMDs?

Should Micronesia have Nuclear Detents?

Dangerous topic for me to discuss because there's a meme floating around about how there's separatists in the region that borders Russia. I mean seriously? My ass would get bombed to stone age by this foolish meme of a proposal. It's dangerously ridiculous. Sorry if I sound overly passionate I'm just really depressed about the suffering happening literally in the same spot my ancestors went to battle in the hopes that they would never have to go to battle again.

But yeah that's Anarchism, it's not much different than Trotskyism. I will work with them critically, but not take their assistance for granted. Best way to handle them imo. Extreme caution.