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I've asked lemmy before https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/35873450 and i've read a good few papers, but as far as I can tell sustainable farming requires animal inputs. Non-animal input farms require external fertilizer to maintain soil health (which is mainly made from fossil fuels).
Even the three fields system requires ruminant animals during the fallow stage, to graze, churn, and fertilize the ground.
Right now - I don't see a credible method to remove animals from agriculture.
This is where I wish we were as big as Reddit. There when it was good you could ask a question like that and there would be scientists in that field, technicians doing the work — farmers in this case — answering you and getting a thousand up votes
Here you get people like me who came here because Reddit lost its soul, along with people who don't fit in well enough, discriminated groups, and open source and/or political true believers
I think you're right though. Plants need fertilisation to grow. The list of chemicals they need is the list of chemicals in animal waste. The ecosystem loops
Energy comes in through sunlight feeding plants, animals eat plants, extracting the energy and whatever else, animals dump what they don't need (and give back the balance when they die), other animals eat animals for the energy they contain and dump the waste on the ground
If you take the animal feedback out, you break the cycle, the nutrients are eaten a distance away and the waste is never returned. The plants can waste energy there's always more sunshine but they need those chemicals that were taken out of the loop. I imagine synthetic fertilizers will miss something that animals would have given back. They will be inferior.
That's a fantastic way to put it!
The synthetic fertilizers are using non renewable fossil fuels! So there is a major time limit to them
Not just non renewable, but also inferior. Permaculture places using animals report they are building soil, regular industrial farms report X years left before the ground is sapped
Yeah I really wish this was more widely known and talked about