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In this episode, Dave sits down with Peter Ballerstedt, a retired forage agronomist and ruminant nutritionist known as "Don Pedro the Sod Father of the Ruminati," who brings a unique agricultural perspective to metabolic health discussions. Ballerstedt shares his 2007 transformation after reading Gary Taubes' book and how it led him to bridge agricultural science with the low-carb community. The conversation examines environmental arguments around animal agriculture, presents data on greenhouse gas emissions (12% animal vs 10% plant agriculture), explores the limitations of converting grassland to cropland, discusses the evolution of dietary guidelines since the 1970s, and examines Ballerstedt's concept of a "ruminant revolution" to address both human malnutrition and environmental concerns.

Funnily enough Feldman had to delete this video from youtube because the algorithm was exerting editorial punishment (views going down across the whole channel), as a form of silent censorship.

Spotify claims to have the video of this talk, but I can't get it to play - https://open.spotify.com/episode/5BQLJGRBJ1E89vDg3RLJ3v/

Sorry for no summary of this talk, it's too long for my toolchains to make a transcript of.

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[–] jet@hackertalks.com 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I've asked lemmy before https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/35873450 and i've read a good few papers, but as far as I can tell sustainable farming requires animal inputs. Non-animal input farms require external fertilizer to maintain soil health (which is mainly made from fossil fuels).

Even the three fields system requires ruminant animals during the fallow stage, to graze, churn, and fertilize the ground.

Right now - I don't see a credible method to remove animals from agriculture.

[–] psud@aussie.zone 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

This is where I wish we were as big as Reddit. There when it was good you could ask a question like that and there would be scientists in that field, technicians doing the work — farmers in this case — answering you and getting a thousand up votes

Here you get people like me who came here because Reddit lost its soul, along with people who don't fit in well enough, discriminated groups, and open source and/or political true believers

I think you're right though. Plants need fertilisation to grow. The list of chemicals they need is the list of chemicals in animal waste. The ecosystem loops

Energy comes in through sunlight feeding plants, animals eat plants, extracting the energy and whatever else, animals dump what they don't need (and give back the balance when they die), other animals eat animals for the energy they contain and dump the waste on the ground

If you take the animal feedback out, you break the cycle, the nutrients are eaten a distance away and the waste is never returned. The plants can waste energy there's always more sunshine but they need those chemicals that were taken out of the loop. I imagine synthetic fertilizers will miss something that animals would have given back. They will be inferior.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

the ecosystem loops

That's a fantastic way to put it!

The synthetic fertilizers are using non renewable fossil fuels! So there is a major time limit to them

[–] psud@aussie.zone 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not just non renewable, but also inferior. Permaculture places using animals report they are building soil, regular industrial farms report X years left before the ground is sapped

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 2 points 1 day ago

Yeah I really wish this was more widely known and talked about