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[–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago (4 children)

So it’s okay to swear as long as you use words that you find acceptable yourself only?

[–] vrek@programming.dev 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"mom!!!Brother biscuited himself"

"daddy, are you biscuit - faced again? You were supposed to drive me to my school play tonight!"

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You leave my gravy habit out of this

[–] vrek@programming.dev 8 points 2 days ago

You will roux the day you asked that

[–] LePoisson@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Are there people that find the phrase "oh biscuits" to be unacceptable?

Like, what do you even mean?

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The kid is still communicating the exact same intent when they say biscuits vs shit. They are just making a different sound. Isn't it the intent that should matter?

[–] korazail@lemmy.myserv.one 1 points 2 days ago

I think there's a component where the words matter and the intent/inflection/tone matter and that combination can be used as a whole.

Also, the desire to comment to the world when things happen is pretty human.

"That was unpleasant and hurt" when you smack your thumb with a hammer could come out as a variety of things, such as: "fuck!", "ow!", "Jesus Christ!", "yikes!", "damn!", "aaaiiiee!", etc. Are these ALL swearing, or does the word matter? I would say it does, but we may disagree.

But I think the intent is the most important component for me. If my kid says "fuck" after smacking his thumb, that's not going to bother me. I'll ask him to code-switch around me and use something else, but I fully expect that his friends are cursing all the time. The code-switching is the lesson, not the word.

If he says "fuck you" to someone, that's a different scenario and the words are actively hostile. It doesn't really matter what the words are, if the goal is to hurt someone verbally, then it needs to be reasonable and sometimes it can be. Telling a bully to "fuck off" won't bother me, telling a teacher to "please depart from this facility" would. Some of the best disses in history were made without swear words, but were devastating because of it. Be eloquent.

The grey area for me come in when the 'swear' is an adjective. I try to coach my kids to not do this, but it sometimes happens in my speech, and I don't bother with it in text when I can assume my readers are old enough to code switch: "These legos are fucking stuck together" is not acceptable, nor is "these legos are frikkin stuck together", but "these legos are really stuck together" is. Sometimes, though, you need the extra emphasis a swear word gives you.

My kids read the good books, so sometimes they'll pull a swear out of a novel. Brian Sanderson has a whole pile that my oldest will sometimes use. I find it charming when he yells "Storm it!" when I tell him to go brush his teeth. Maybe that's just me.

[–] LePoisson@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago

The intent does matter, and I swear too frequently to have it bother me, but society decided certain words are swear words and it just is what it is.

[–] Kanda@reddthat.com 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Why is not okay to swear in any way? The Christian thing doesn't even have backup for anything but saying the lords name in vain.

[–] RamenJunkie@midwest.social 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Swearing is fine, swearing all the time with the same words is just uncreative.

[–] Kanda@reddthat.com 1 points 2 days ago

Incredible that your comments are being removed by moderator

[–] athatet@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I’m pretty sure that has always been the case.

[–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 days ago (3 children)

What makes yours more acceptable?

[–] PumaStoleMyBluff@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

"real" swear words practically all have a cultural history tied to either blasphemy or sex.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You have also forgotten racial and other minority related slurs, but that's the gist of it yeah

[–] RamenJunkie@midwest.social 0 points 2 days ago

Yeah, the origins of some swearing can make it worse than say, biscuits.

[–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

So?

Biscuits can to, what’s your point?

So it’s not like the word isn’t “acceptable” either lmfao.

Everyone knows you’re replacing a word for another anyways, so you seriously think that makes it somehow better? That you’re lying to yourself and everyone else know anyways? Just use the words instead of trying to be cute. The only thing it does to anyone else other than the others like you, is make you look like a puritanical follower.

I wasn’t part of, and neither were you when they decided that some words are okay to speak and not others. That’s the part that’s the issue here.

You’re not being cute, you’re not being funny, you’re only perpetuating that others control you. The issue has and should always be the context they are used in. You don’t get to decide what’s an okay word to say and not. And substituting words just shows that you want to swear, but you follow societal standards, and everyone sees that instead.

I ain't never gotten kicked outta Dennys for calling someone a "shitass" just more flapjacks

[–] athatet@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean, it’s okay to swear regardless of what anyone thinks of the words.

Unless you’re being an unserious silly pants and I’m too autistic to tell.

[–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

mean, it’s okay to swear regardless of what anyone thinks of the words.

Read the comments? That’s literally the point I’m arguing since some small portion of people decided decades ago that some words are okay, but not others.

The issue has and should always be the context they are used in.