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How do you explain that socialism is more democratic? (lemmygrad.ml)
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How do you argue with someone to explain why Marxism-Leninism is more democratic than western liberal democracy, when they are deeply propagandized to think that only the western democracy is democratic and just and say that rich people are needed to make the economy work etc (all the usual talking points). I am not very good at this, when I say our democracy is not democratic they said I sound insane

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[–] culpritus@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_finance_in_the_United_States

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_wage_in_the_United_States

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth_inequality_in_the_United_States

The sum of money required to win political office continues to increase every cycle, while the minimum wage has continued to decline in real terms over the same period. Inequality of wealth is continuously getting worse as well. The critical thing to consider is the class of the person you are trying to convince. If they still believe they can achieve significant wealth in their lifetime, you have a very slim chance to getting through to them.

[–] marl_karx@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

i am from germany

[–] culpritus@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago

The only general limitation on party expenses is the ability to raise funds from private contributors. Due to a supreme court ruling (see below in History), public subsidies to a specific party may not exceed the "self-generated revenue", i.e. the total amount raised from signed-up members and other donors ("relative maximum", "relative Obergrenze"). Thus, a party that is unable to collect enough contributions from private sources will see its public subsidy reduced automatically[15] and be unable to make all the expenditure that it would like to.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_finance_in_Germany

This is a really advantageous arrangement for capital. If a party doesn't have significant private funds raised, they are unable to gather public funding.

https://www.bundesbank.de/resource/blob/908924/3ef9d9a4eaeae8a8779ccec3ac464970/mL/2023-04-vermoegensbefragung-data.pdf