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Anti-abortion is one of most fringe positions you can have in British politics, support for allowing it has Assad levels of support.
It's even under the 20% irredeemable nutjob low water mark
20% isn't irredeemable nutjob at all
20% is a pretty charitable estimate if you've been paying attention to the news for the past decade
I don't think 20% of people are racists or nazis
That's just a (concerningly large) percentage of the nutjobs
There are other kinds too that focus their rage at other marginalised groups
Then you get the conspiracy groups, of anti vaccination people (we have official stats showing there were a couple of percent of hard-line nevers during COVID), the ones that burn down radio masts because of bill gates 5g microchips, those lizard-people guys etc.
Perhaps irredeemable is harsh on a few of these, but most don't get to that point because something or someone pulls them out. For whatever reason it doesn't happen to a percentage of people.
It all adds up to a group of people who provide a lot of noise at the bottom end of polling.
A couple of a percent isn't 20%
And do you think everything I didn't attach a percentage to is zero?
Do you think antivaxxers are the largest demographic in the ones I listed? I don't think they're even in the top three.
Usually there's a pretty significant overlap when it comes to nutjobs
Had a flick through that, it seems the 6% are on the extreme of "under no circumstances". It shows around 1/3rd of people believe the current 24 week limit is too late.
For example, I would consider myself "anti abortion" but I believe it should be an option in cases of rape, serious risk to mother's life or a very definite fatal foetal abnormality. I'm not in favour of investigating/witchhunting/prosecuting people who get abortions despite that, though.
I don't know what "Assad levels of support" is or how that's relevant.
If you look at another study, it shows opposition at 40%
It's a simile.
That's just a poll of people in Northern Ireland and it doesn't ask the same questions as the YouGov poll I linked. The date in the article header is also wrong, this article is from 2017, you can tell from the URL and it's appearance in the Wayback Machine.
This consultation by Ulster University and Queen's University Belfast shows that 71% of people from NI believe it's a woman's right to choose (data is from 2018).
I think I've established anyway that pro-life isn't some fringe kookie position
You have done nothing of the sort lol
The statistics were showing 20-30% in some regions of the UK. That's a minority, but definitely not fringe