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[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I was a dumb-as-a-doornail teen in the 90s. That was the reason. Being the coolest motherfucker. And I doubt there ever was a person smoking the first one and be like "wow this is great!" I never liked it, I wanted to smoke too and did, and then there was no way out of it. Not once in my life I heard a smoker say "my first one was awereesomeeeee! I love this!".

That's the point where people choose to persuade themselves it's not a drug addiction but a "life-choice" or "taste". I mean, come on. All other drugs at least offer you something. Nicotine? The best it does it calm you down FROM the withdrawal symptoms.

It's not really being "at a different spot". There won't be another step if you already convinced yourself you'd love it. That's, IMHO, and surely only my anecdotal knowledge, what the less smart people do when, deep down, they know they've already lost.

Shouldn't have sounded like from a high-horsed ex-smoker. But would you call that coping overly smart?

And thanks. Took me 15 years of "tomorrow I'll start!" and two nightmare-weeks. Smoked 2-3 packs a day, which was like 30-45€ a day. God that hurts to say.

[–] Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Your perspective is at least as good as mine, I never smoked.

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 days ago

Wise. And you absolutely missed nothing at all :)

[–] TheMuffinMan@piefed.world 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Not once in my life I heard a smoker say “my first one was awereesomeeeee! I love this!”.
Real lmao.

Ex-smoker, picked it up at uni, and the first handful of times I'd tried it, it was vile. The first time it felt OK or possibly good was probably when withdrawal started to kick in. Really should have stopped before that, but I was stubborn and had to learn from experience. Thankfully I was never that heavy a smoker, maybe 3 fags a day, up to 10 or so if on a night out and drinking.

I do still use it in spliffs, but begrudgingly (can't find anything else that isn't too harsh to smoke, nor do I like pure joints).

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Spoken with many smokers over the years, and it's really always the same. The first X cigs were disgusting, puke-inducing and whatnot. then it grows okay-ish and then...you wasted the good point of stopping here and now once and forever and....enjoyed the first calming of a withdrawal :-(

How about VAPING weed? beside that it's way less unhealthy it's also more comfy? ever tried? If i had to put tobacco in a joint, i would pass up on a joint. and i would never pass up on a joint :)

[–] TheMuffinMan@piefed.world 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You are totally right of course. Vaping weed is the way to go. I misplaced my dry herb vape when I moved houses several months ago and it hasn't cropped up yet, which is why I'm back on spliffs for the time being. (Dry herb vapes are spenny as you probably know)

The only other slight quirk is that vaping weed uses it up pretty fast and it hits fast too. I'm an enjoyer of the process itself rather than just being high (which is why things like pipes and bongs never appealed to me either); the way spliffs let me pad/space out the intake matters to me more than I'd like it to.

I will switch back once I find my vape, but in the meantime I've found using activated charcoal filters instead of roaches does cut out a lot of the nastiness of tobacco. It does weaken the effect of the weed a bit too, but that's nbd.

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago

I'm more pragmatic, i just choose the easiest, most effective way. Which is vaping. Also doesn't bother wifey as not the whole house reeks of weed :-) But if tobacco works for you there well...why not. Maybe there's some super-low-nicotine-tobacco? I really have no oversight over the market any more lol.