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[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
[–] kibblebits@quokk.au 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Choose a word that I can use instead of lets that has a similar meaning but doesn’t go down the direction you’re trying to take this, because that wasn’t the intention.

[–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

I understood what you originally meant, for what it's worth.

Maybe "When a man is comfortable enough in his own masculinity that his partner being the breadwinner isn't an issue." or something like that.

[–] kibblebits@quokk.au 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

How can we do it without subtle jabs to masculinity? Everyone should be equal

[–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Oh I didn't think that was a jab at masculinity. Masculinity can be positive and men and women can express masculinity.

[–] kibblebits@quokk.au 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Well, using the word chivalry in 2026 is pretty sexist imo. The definition is more knightly in origin, with another example being men courteous to women. Clearly from another time. I think we can just retire this word—o😚OP seems to be asking for a semantic shift to an already established word. 🤷‍♂️

[–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Absolutely agree on the word chivalry being outdated.

Word evolution and etymology are always interesting topics to banter about. Chivalry clearly has a different modern definition than it's origins. Maybe we could help redefine it further? Or come up with another way of expressing something similar.

Like, I think women can be chivalrous. Does that inherently balance the definition or is chivalry always considered a male trait?

[–] kibblebits@quokk.au 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I don’t think the modern definition is clear at all. Which is why we are here.

I think the word should be decommissioned, as well as the concept of any gender treating any other gender differently than they would treat their own.

If someone asks, “how should a man treat a woman?” The answer should always be, “like a man would treat a man.”

Maybe I’m just too damn chivalrous. ;)

[–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

I just said the modern version is clearly different, not that the definition itself is clear.

....Do you think I'm arguing with you?

I don't agree that being chivalrous inherently means treating different genders differently.

[–] kibblebits@quokk.au 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I didn’t mean to sound as if this was an argument.

[–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 5 hours ago

Ok cool, just checking. It's hard to read tone in text and sometimes I misjudge it!