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An anti-immigrant Neo-Nazi rally took place in Ukraine with the slogans "Ukraine for Ukrainians" and "Sieg Heil".

Visible are the red and black OUN flag (WWII Nazi collaborator organization responsible for pogroms and massacres) as well as Right Sector and Svoboda (far right Neo-Nazi organizations that led the 2014 Maidan coup):

https://xcancel.com/HavryshkoMarta/status/2058286223966237106

https://xcancel.com/HavryshkoMarta/status/2058189412161241484

https://xcancel.com/UniqueMongolia/status/2058418167811026962

https://xcancel.com/MarioBojic/status/2058307239908147255

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[–] ViolentPacifist@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Nazis believed Slavs were subhumans. But it seems these people are trying to be part of the West and its "whiteness."

The nazi Ukrainians also are pushing a narrative that it is the Russians that are subhumans. Which is not too dissimilar from the liberal narrative.

[–] REEEEvolution@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Ukrainian nazis consider all non-Ukrainians subhuman. The OUN wanted to get rid of all jews, russians, hungarians, tartars and greeks on what they consider ukrainian territory.

[–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yeah but but they sucked up to and worshipped the Germans. Because those were fellow Aryans.

Never mind that the Germans looked at Ukrainians as just another flavor of Russians and made no distinction except where they could use them as useful idiots against other Slavs.

(Also, don't forget Poles. The greatest massacres and atrocities committed by Ukrainian nationalists were against Poles. And to this day the Kiev government refuses to even apologize, and glorifies the perpetrators of those massacres. Which makes it all the more pathetic how Poland is siding with them now just because they share a hatred of Russians.)

[–] ViolentPacifist@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Eh. I know Ukraine and its nazis have a positive relationship with Canada. Are the nazi Ukrainians racist against white Canadians? According to you, they are. I would argue otherwise.

[–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

You are right. Like most Eastern European Nazis, they look up to Western and Northern Europeans who they consider fellow racially superior Aryans.

Ukrainian nationalism is a form of Slavic self-hatred. They hate and consider themselves superior to those who are most like them (Russians, Poles, Russian speaking Ukrainians), and they worship those who look down on them as inferior for being Slavs.

That's why they have to invent the most absurd things to rewrite their own history claiming they are descended from some ancient super-humans who were the original Aryans and who built and invented everything, and they are not the same as other inferior Slavs who are actually "asiatic".

The Baltic Nazis do the same. They practically worship the ground Germans walk on. That's why they were extra-brutal toward Jews and other "subhumans" in WWII, sometimes shocking even the Germans, because they wanted to go above and beyond to prove themselves and show that they were part of "the superior race".

They practically long for the days when they were colonized by the Teutons. That's why they jumped so eagerly at the first opportunity to be part of the EU-NATO Fourth Reich.

[–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)
[–] Maeve@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

OT: requesting analysis of what you see happening in Germany around you (separate thread, obviously).

[–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Nothing. There is not much to analyze because nothing is happening. Germans are extremely passive and complacent. There are occasional demonstrations happening in some of the larger cities but if you don't live in a city like Berlin or Frankfurt, there is practically zero political activity. People are just completely checked out. Most are still mentally living in the early 2000s.

On a macro level a lot is happening of course. Fuel is getting very expensive, our grocery, heating and electricity bills are getting insane. Germany is deindustrializing and losing tens of thousands of jobs. Large companies that have been around for decades or longer are going bankrupt. Growth is non-existent, the chancellor wants to cut social welfare to expand the military, conscription is making a comeback, and we have just sent more tens of billions to Ukraine.

The AfD leading polls by a large margin ahead of the second place party, but it hardly makes a difference because the center parties can all just unite to keep them out. And besides the establishment has adopted the AfD's xenophobic policies anyway. The left is practically dead. They drove out everyone who was against NATO and the EU and have become an appendage of the mainstream neoliberal parties.

The state is surveilling and persecuting anyone who is critical of Israel or the drive to war with Russia. Our communist parties are having their bank accounts frozen and lawfare was used against us to ban us from elections despite us not getting even 1% of votes (i guess if you're a glass half full type of person you could say this is a good sign, it shows how much they fear us).

Journalism is practically dead with the only journalists who dare go against the official narrative getting sanctioned out of their livelihoods and some who were covering the Ukraine conflict were even threatened with arrest and cannot return to the EU. The mainstream media has a stranglehold on the narrative on topics like EU, NATO, Iran, Palestine, Russia.

In short, nothing good is happening and things will only get worse and Germans are not going to do anything about it except drift even further right.

[–] demeritum@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Basically this. Any possibility of larger resistance died when the mainstream german left embraced Ukraine.

[–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yep. Yet another opportunist German left betrayal of workers in favor of imperialist warmongering. Strong echoes of SPD voting for WWI war funds.

[–] Maeve@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 days ago

The state is surveilling and persecuting anyone who is critical of Israel or the drive to war with Russia. Our communist parties are having their bank accounts frozen and lawfare was used against us to ban us from elections despite us not getting even 1% of votes (i guess if you’re a glass half full type of person you could say this is a good sign, it shows how much they fear us).

Journalism is practically dead with the only journalists who dare go against the official narrative getting sanctioned out of their livelihoods and some who were covering the Ukraine conflict were even threatened with arrest and cannot return to the EU. The mainstream media has a stranglehold on the narrative on topics like EU, NATO, Iran, Palestine, Russia.

These are all I have heard in months. Grim.

In short, nothing good is happening and things will only get worse and Germans are not going to do anything about it except drift even further right.

Western trends. 🤢