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[–] RejZoR@lemmy.ml 37 points 1 day ago (5 children)

He looks so fucking clueless and straight up lost. How is this guy a fucking CEO? Or just a useful idiot for others to complete that Ai circlejerk where everyone is dumping billions into each other companies to pump up the stocks?

[–] Hapankaali@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How is this guy a fucking CEO?

Wealthy background. Dropped out, got lucky with a startup and sold his stake for a decent sum, gaining enough momentum to keep failing upward.

The guy is absolutely clueless, which can be mathematically proven on the basis of the fact that he invested in a crypto firm.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

got lucky with a startup and sold his stake for a decent sum

He didn't get lucky... him and others bamboozled investors into buying Loopt which was never functional, once sold, it shut down in months. Exactly what he is doing right now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0K4XPu3Qhg

Early days discussion (what I am referencing here) starts at 2:15

[–] Asafum@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I wish I had no morals... Life is so easy when you don't give a single fuck about what you do to others... It's so infuriating to see how many wealthy people have amazing lives because they simply don't give a single fuck about anything but themselves.

Sociopathy is greatly rewarded in this stupid world we live in. :/

[–] Flower@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

The trick is to be rich. Wealth and power does things to a brain and makes the empathy circuits wither and die, so perfect for getting even more rich.

[–] Hapankaali@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I didn't really look into what this startup did, but it doesn't surprise me. Elon Musk has a very similar kind of story, bullshitting his way to being a billionaire. The system is very heavily stacked in favour of dishonest people.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 3 points 1 day ago

The system is very heavily stacked in favour of people with a lot of money to start with. Then, those that are "willing to risk it" can reap outrageous returns when their longshots come in. We don't see the losers, but the ones that hit their longshots are what we have "at the top" now.

[–] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I just want to be clear, most CEOs aren't smart. They have a slightly higher median intelligence than the wider population, but by and large CEOs are no more talented than your average used car salesman. While there's certainly outliers (on both sides), most intelligent people don't start careers in a field with an 80%+ chance of failure in the first 5 years. Altman's success in particular is 50% luck, 50% being a very convincing liar. These people aren't geniuses, they pay people to think for them, which is why having a machine think for them sounds like a great idea.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I mean no disrespect to Carl, but he has a very generous take on how we got here. I'm sure it's happened that way somewhere, but how common is it really? I'm more inclined to believe people are more easily suckered by confident incompetence than they like to believe.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

how common is it really?

In 2003-2005 (when I first read those sentiments from Carl) I was working at a 1000 employee corporation valued at $1B market cap which functioned EXACTLY like that. I don't see it much in smaller companies, but in the large ones - yeah, I see it a lot. Come to think of it, the first small company I worked at had a guy who worked like that, but it only showed up around layoff time. He'd hire smart people, but keep the "safely dumb" ones and try to get rid of those who might be a threat to him. Luckily he was 3rd tier, VP, beneath a President and CEO who vetoed most of his targeted dismissals. He eventually was invited to leave and chose to continue his career as a college professor, rated worst on campus for terrorizing his students.

[–] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I've worked for quite a few major companies now, and the one thing that always gets me is the top brass always think they have magical intuition about people. That's how they justify it, both to themselves and to others based on what I see. The ones they're promoting are the ones they think are just smart enough to keep the wheels running. What they actually are are just straight up idiots who are very good at taking credit, and deflecting blame, and have no other notable talent. And then they just keep failing upward, leaving a wake of failure that is always someone else's fault or "valuable lessons" that didn't have to be learned the hard way if they were actually capable of thinking critically.

These people don't "Fake it 'till they make it" they just fake it, and keep faking it, because they have no idea what they're doing, but they're a much more successful predator than their peers as they cannibalize the company from within. And then these parasites make it to the boardroom and any chance to slow them down vanishes. I've seen it play out exactly like that a dozen times, at promising startups, and venerable old-guard corporations, Fortune 500s and corner stores.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 1 points 3 hours ago

I spent a bit of time with a retired CEO who oversaw a huge decade of growth in his company. 5 years post retirement he still knew a lot of the workers at all levels by name, was very well liked by everyone we met. He had a few observations about his success:

  • I didn't do anything magical, I was just in the right place at the right time and I didn't screw it up too badly. I have heard similar sentiments from investors who made it big during the .com bubble.

  • My biggest challenge was in hiring people. In a given year, if 50% of my hires didn't actively make things worse, that was a good year.


Re: And then these parasites make it to the boardroom and any chance to slow them down vanishes.

What I have seen of board room denizens is: they are personally wealthy and well connected. They exist mostly to provide "warm introductions" for relationships that may make themselves richer. They retain their seats through their personal wealth/power and the connections it brings, and the company retains them by providing them something they value - either monetary or powerful connections.

Being on the board isn't what makes them unstoppable. Being in control of F.U. money x10 is what makes them unstoppable.

[–] Soulphite@reddthat.com 6 points 1 day ago

A lot of CEO's could say they have no clue what they're doing and mostly just 'faked it till they made it; and still fake it'

[–] StillAlive@piefed.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Speaking of looks, why does he look like he's had some unnecessary plastic surgery?

[–] Kirp123@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Because he probably did. Most of these people are vain as shit.

[–] Chulk@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

How is this guy a fucking CEO

I think that psychopaths naturally claw their way up to that position, so it checks out