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I was on a international flight recently that spanned about 11 hours in the day and the person in front kept putting thier chair back.

Now I know people want to relax but i'm using the screen in the chair and i'm hoping the inflight meal will at least be passable enough to digest.

So on a long haul flight that happens in the day would you put your chair back?

Would you keep trying to put it back every hour (i havent moved chairs). even though you have been asked not to?

  • now by the cabin crew btw
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[–] ragingHungryPanda@piefed.keyboardvagabond.com 38 points 4 days ago (3 children)

most chairs allow the tray to be upright while the seat is reclined. if the seat wasn't meant to be reclined, it wouldn't be able to be reclined. demanding that someone else not perform an action that is permitted to them because you feel that is it is more convenient to you is...well... I'll let you figure that one out

[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

demanding that someone else not perform an action that is permitted to them because you feel that is it is more convenient to you is...well... I'll let you figure that one out

So if you've been waiting in line for something for an hour and I just show up and cut in front of you, you'd be fine with that since there's no rule or law saying I can't?

The two of us are in a small elevator and I rip a huge wet fart just as the doors are closing and its all good, right?

This logic is so often used to justify bad behavior. A perfect example is the far-right spreading hate and racism because "free speech." They make the exact same argument that you're making right now.

[–] ragingHungryPanda@piefed.keyboardvagabond.com 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

we're talking about sitting in a seat, right? 😂

[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Nope we're talking about reclining back into the space of someone else's seat. It's obviously nowhere close to the level of racism (which is why I gave those other more mundane examples first) in terms of importance, but the self-justification is all the same.

[–] ragingHungryPanda@piefed.keyboardvagabond.com 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

you're sounding like my parents after they go on a rant about small government and then want to micromanage how other people sit in a seat.

I mean, I understand that Americans are generally allergic to the idea of existing with other human beings and have zero concept of shared space. Frankly, I find this opposition to people reclining in a reclining chair to be comically ridiculous. But as I said before, we live under capitalism. You can always offer to pay them to not do it. Find the market price for not reclining ina reclining chair. It's a fair trade.

[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

allergic to the idea of existing with other human beings and have zero concept of shared space. Frankly, I find this opposition to people reclining in a reclining chair to be comically ridiculous.

Well as someone who will have their knees crushed when you want to take more of the shared space for yourself, this is exactly how I view your argument. If I were short then I probably wouldn't care. I dont lean my seat back because I know exactly how it is which seems like a much better way to be a steward of shared space.

Arguing that having the option to do something means it's "okay" even if it hurts others around you, and if those others don't like being hurt they should pay 10x the price for first class makes you sound incredibly entitled and self-absorbed, which is pretty hilarious since this is the stereotypical American behavior.

[–] MrNesser@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (3 children)

its really uncomftable fro 11 hours if they do that

🤷 I've been on longer flights many times and never had an issue with it.

but we do live in a capitalist society, so perhaps you could pay them to not make use of their own chairs. Yes, I am drinking and am bring a smart ass.

[–] ieGod@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 days ago

This really is the answer

[–] JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Put your seat back, you'll get more room.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world -1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Reclining seats don’t work that way. My knees are still the same place, my lap is still the same place, the tray is still the same place. All of them are infringed upon, even if I pay the entitlement back on the next poor soul, until the person in the non-reclining seat in the last row is screwed

[–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 days ago

That has not been my experience at all. In fact could you explain how the person in front of you inconveniences you by reclining their seat?

The only thing I can think of is when someone reclines with a bump and it makes a noise.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world -2 points 3 days ago

Personally I see it like …. As a bigger guy, I can easily shove my way through a crowd so I’m not delayed demanding that I not perform that action because it is more convenient for you not to be pushed to the ground is … well … yes, I do feel like it is a good analogy. In both cases an entitled person is physically infringing on close personal space to cause pain and make someone else less comfortable, and potentially damage their devices. The difference is that one of these actions has entitled people thinking it’s ok