This week, the British government banned Hasan Piker and Cenk Uygur, two leftwing US commentators with millions of followers, from entering the country on the grounds that their presence would not be “conducive to the public good”. It did not spell out what it meant by this very broad phrase, but Piker and Uygur have accused the government of denying them entry because of their prolific criticism of Israel. Some critics have accused the pair of antisemitism, which they deny.
Neither Piker nor Uygur have said anything that is more divisive or dangerous than former Israeli president Isaac Herzog’s declaration that all Palestinians were responsible for the Hamas attack on 7 October 2023. A UN commission of inquiry found that Herzog incited the commission of genocide with this statement and said that his later modifications of that utterance were an effort “to deflect responsibility for the initial statement”. Still, the British seem fine with that first statement: Herzog met with Keir Starmer in London in 2025. Clearly that meeting was deemed to be conducive to the public good.
Wherever you live, whatever you believe, wherever you sit on the political spectrum, most of us have a shared understanding of basic moral concepts, of what is good and what is bad. We understand that children are innocent and should not be killed in the thousands. We understand that a region’s healthcare system should not be systematically wiped out and medics targeted. We understand that there should be laws around warfare to protect civilians. We understand that people should not be expelled en masse from their land, their homes replaced with luxury settlements. We understand that collective punishment is a crime, one that is very much not “conducive to the public good”.
When you stop someone from entering your country because you deem that they are not “conducive to the public good”, then I think it’s important to spell out exactly what you mean by “good”. The British government has declined to do that directly. But what has become very clear, over the last couple of years, is that the UK and US have deemed it conducive for the public good for Israel to be allowed to do whatever it likes, with no limits. What is morally bad, apparently, is talking about it.
That disgusting fuck should go live in China or Russia. Reason
You're quoting Destiny who went to Israel to tell IDF militants to stop posting footage of themselves online while they're sexually harassing Palestinians because it makes Israel look bad.
Not to stop doing it, but to stop posting footage of it.
This is like posting a KKK blog hitpiece against someone who advocates for black rights.
You got a source for that? Because I'm pretty sure he was making fun of them being stupid enough to film it. Nice deflection tho. Always attack the source, not the claim lul
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H55AKyANBw
Yes, a very serious talk on how to hide war crimes, not a joke about idiots filming their crimes.
Is Israel committing genocide in Gaza, yes or no?
You are a nazi.
Destiny is a sex pest pedophile and you're using his fan wiki to shit smear his ideological opponent. Very unbiased of you.
Can't blame him for that. Being naturally skeptical of US imperialism - with the history of the CIA, not to mention Iran currently - is healthy. Additionally US officials and the CIA screaming wolf so many times even made the EU turn a blind eye to Russian despotism - a state fueled by oligarchy, Russian chauvenism and antidemocratic governance. Republicans largely ignored it because they are crypto fascism enjoyers.
Going to bat for the autocratic regime of China however is kind of weak, NGL - especially if you talk to actual Chinese people about it anywhere else than online, or the influencer sphere. But that being said: the way US politicians spread sinophobia while at the same time exploiting Chinese wage slavery and outright slavery is very telling. They only apply certain values when it's advantageous to their propaganda and not when it's advantageous to do even more exploitation. Again: screaming wolf, trying to have their cake and eat it to, as the world's current hegemony.
But let us never forget that western liberals and conservatives "outsourced" (what a name for it) to the global south and the east so that western corporations could exploit said slave labour, and they did so to spite and deflate Union movements, in order to avoid democracy - because unions are a form of democratic representation. Now they're crying crocodile tears for the hole they dug us into, a whole we call the RACE TO THE BOTTOM.
But also: why are you bringing the destiny v piker beef into the comment section? Being a stan for an influencer is IMHO intellectual suicide. It negates the process of free thought, of actual, factual, axiom based skepticism.
And to tell it clearly: free speech without free thought is like giving an assault rifle to a monkey. Don't be a rifle wielding monkey, thank you very much.
EDIT: but also, are you against public discourse and for the UK government banning people for taking part in it?
I've spoken with Chinese people in person who would think you're an absolute moron spouting off about an autocratic regime.
I don't care about the beef, I care about him spreading Russian propaganda. I'm not Ukrainian, but I am European.
I see every country here fully justified to deny him entry. You can't be doing propaganda for someone invading a European country and expect to come over and spread it here in person aswell.
I just link the article because it's the best sourced writeup of Pikes views on Ukraine I found on quick notice.
To your point about free speech: It doesn't include coordinated disinformation campaigns. If you don't fight against those, democracy fails. Just look at America or even the rise of the AfD in Germany.
I don't think you get it.
All political influencers place their bets on where they think the future may lay. He had reservations of whether or not the CIA was full of shit.
As to the idea of him supporting Putin or being pro Z, that's bullshit - and you know it. Going through the mental gymnastics of saying that he is, albeit indirectly, when he is obviously pro peace and anti war is disingenuous to say the least
He has stated that he is anti imperialist. Just because Chinese programming has convinced him and that US propaganda has made him jaded doesn't negate his stance on the issue.
So before we move on, let's ignore the fan wiki and move to the actual meat of the matter: link to me the direct, unfalsifiable and clear proof that he is anti Ukrainian and pro Z.
If it's all him being skeptical of US propaganda - wether or not it is correct - then you have no grounds to justify saying that he is actually anti Ukrainian or pro Z.