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I'll never forget the disappointment I felt the day I found out that Alcoholics Anonymous is a christian group. The fact that one of the few institutions that exists independently to help people to get free of the crippling addiction to alcohol does so by shoving god down your throat is such an amazing let down. I had a friend who was a terrible alcoholic and also an atheist and the trouble he had finding organizations the could help him was so devastating. In the end the alcoholism eventually led to his death and I often wonder if he could have been saved if there had been a more robust network of non-religious substance abuse groups.
Well, there's different levels of christianity at different chapters. I found a chapter that was mostly atheists and would only refer to a "higher power" and even then was like "look really it just means you can't just think about what you want, because you want to get drunk and it's killing you.".
So, you have to think about something greater than whatever itch you have in the moment, if you want to live.
In my experience AA tries to exchange ones addiction to alcohol to an addiction to religion. I've noted the most feverously religious people I know became that way after AA. Religion preys on the most susceptible.
I've long complained that Christians push the queer community to the bottle then sell us their god as the solution.
Dunno if it helps at all, but the success rate for people who go through AA is the same rate as people who do it by themselves.
https://smartrecovery.org/
I put up with it for long enough to get the help I needed, but I can't stand it either. At least there were enough supportive people with actual advice kicking around. I can't attest to every community, but if you want it bad enough, it's probably worth the price of admission for the few months it takes to break the habit.
I got three years a couple months ago, and I'm not sure I would have made it without the support, but I also regret that the program teaches that you don't have the power to do it without god, just a fun reminder of how these people prey on the vulnerable.
I'm sorry about your friend, I know my life could have ended the same way pretty easily the way I was going.
Sorry for the loss of your friend.
Thank you.
I'm surprised there isn't some NHS thing. They have support groups for dieting so I would have thought there would have been one for alcoholism given how much damage it does to people and how much it must cost the NHS every year.
The NHS does have things, but not everyone lives in Britain.