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[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And it totally sucks for those of us that do really love the experience of driving. O8 was the last year Subaru used a mechanically linked clutch with real force, after it became a soft little lever you moved an inch to get neutral. Then they got rid of it all together. If a manufacturer produced a $20k sub 3000lbs 4 cyl that's fun to drive with a true mechanical clutch and as few computers as possible, I would get a loan for one. Used options are getting limited and in worse and worse condition.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Absolutely. A manual, simple 4 cylinder would be great.

But that doesn’t have telemetry they can sell, features you have to subscribe to, and branded trim levels you have to pay extra to get.

[–] Phantaloons@piefed.zip 2 points 23 hours ago

Yeah!

looks at the Civic Si

"Have you seen such a vehicle anywhere around here, little Civic?"

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I DON'T WANT ANY OF THAT AND WILL NEVER DRIVE A VEHICLE THAT INCLUDES THEM!!!!

shit, sorry for yelling.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You will have few to no choices then. Telemetry or “black box” is in pretty much every single modern vehicle. Subscriptions to Sirius, Spotify, or your heated seat (fuck you BMW) are the norm or trying to be so. A la carte options died decades ago, and then they killed the manual transmission even in halo cars.

I feel ya, man. This is some bullshit. The only choice is to build your own car or try to keep an old one alive.

[–] SillyDude@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

try to keep an old one alive

Cries in ej205

Stock up on headgaskets.