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I'm listening to Hell of Presidents again and it's always incredibly refreshing to hear such a materialist framing for the early days of the US. Like understanding why the goal of not forming parties immediately failed because of conflicts between different factions of capital (e.g. southern slavers vs. northern bankers).

But then what do Republicans and Democrats represent today? I understand they are historical holdovers from over a century ago, so they have have metastasized into a whole lot more than just representing one or two factions of capital, but there must be some materialist divide between them? Or maybe during the neoliberal turn it was recognized by capital to set aside differences and ultimately control both to give the working class even less power than they already had. But now it seems like the tech fascists are trying to coalesce into the Republicans, and I guess that's what the Republicans are atm, just a more openly fascistic bourgeois party than the democrats?

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[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago

This isn’t an exact answer, but kind of indicative: one poll found that the demo Trump does best with are members of the top 1% of income that didn’t get a college degree. While that’s not an industry in and of itself, it does show a divide between capitalists that see themselves as bootstrapping, entrepreneurial owner-operator-founder kind of capitalists, while Democrats seem to attract the more meritocracy-focused capitalists. The ones that see going to the right schools, getting internships at the marquee consulting firms, working their way up the C suite, as the proper sort of capitalist.

As far as specific industries/sectors, there’s some rough overlaps, as others have said, there’s no rational one-to-one mapping here. Many industries can fail into one or the other, and location can play a big part in how people perceive which industry aligns with which type.