3DPrinting
3DPrinting is a place where makers of all skill levels and walks of life can learn about and discuss 3D printing and development of 3D printed parts and devices.
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Good on you. In the realm of 3D printing, if I were to start a business based on 3D printing stuff, I wouldn't feel bad about, say, commissions for printing something the client found elsewhere on demand or commissions for designing a model. (I suppose theoretically a "3d printer repair service" would be something I'd be ok with charging for as well.) But I definitely couldn't feel good about selling models or prints (as opposed to selling my labor and potentially a little bit for raw materials and wear/tear on my printer) that I'd previously designed/printed. I think probably one of my conditions for model design commissions would be that I could publish the model under a CC BY-SA license.
"Information wants to be free." Something I deeply believe.
I have designed a couple of things and whenever I publish them I make them CC BY-NC-SA. I don't think I have designed anything people would be interested in selling but I explicitly do not want people to mass produce and sell my stuff. There's already more than enough plastic in the world and the popularity of 3D printers and the amount of gimmicky models I have seen are not helping that issue
Totally valid. And I tend to think CC BY-NC-SA is probably used more commonly than CC BY-SA. And I'd imagine folks tend to see that NC option and wonder why anyone would ever want to not do that. (I can certainly see why people would be like "Great. That's all permissive licenses need: more Capitalism /s.") Just to explain why I don't usually use the NC (and please don't take this as shade by any means):
When Linksys took a bunch of GPL'd code (including the Linux kernel), compiled it, stuck it on hardware, and sold that hardware to end users, they violated the terms of the GPL. The GPL has no non-commercial license terms, but it does require that the source code (or at least a written offer of source code) be conveyed along with any compiled versions -- including compiled versions on devices sold. Copyright owners for some of that GPL'd code were able to go to Linksys and force them to release the source code of much of what was running on the devices, which enabled the creation of the first versions of OpenWRT (As well as off-shoots like DD-WRT and such).
Something similar is going on in the courts now with regard to smart TVs. With luck, we'll have open source software distros for TVs similar to what OpenWRT is to routers.
If the GPL had forbidden commercial use, we wouldn't have the cheap routers that an ordinary consumer could run OpenWRT on that we do. (And cheap devices and greater availability means more people engaging in the community, submitting PRs, and otherwise contributing and enjoying the freedoms afforded.) In short, commercial use can be a feature in service to end-user freedom. It's not always strictly a bad thing for permissively-licensed works.
So, that explains why I almost always go for GPL licenses when writing software, but of course that doesn't speak to 3D models.
With regard to 3D models, I'm just hoping that by allowing commercial use, it ends up raising some amount of awareness about things like Creative Commons and intellectual property reform in general. If I ever found someone was selling my models, as long as they give me attribution and inform recipients of the license, I'd feel good that at least a few normie non-nerds would have a chance of being exposed to the whole idea of Creative Commons and intellectual property reform in general.
Again, no shade. Just thought it might be germane.
That's a good argument. I wasn't aware of the history of OpenWRT. For software I generally used the MIT license in the past, though I am now shying away from it given that it seems a bit too permissive in my opinion. I should probably research the GPL licenses a bit to figure out if one of those suits my needs.
Sadly, people will still steal it and sell it no matter the license. Companies might be slightly more hesitant to steal it, but anyone selling at flea markets will not even give it a second thought.
That will always be a risk, but I wouldn't expect that from a "serious" average vendor. Maybe from a small-time seller, but they're not making much money regardless. I'd think most large print farms wouldn't risk their business to skimp out on license fees.
No real way to know regardless.
Yes, that is unfortunately true. Better some protection than none at all though