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[–] 00xide@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

****Brother I am, the camdidates I wanted didn't come in first in ranked choice. Volunteering, protesting, didn't win out. Thankfully, we at least have ranked choice.

What am I supposed to do, not vote? Like theres only two people who are realistic to win. I'm gonna puty first choice on a leftist party, but we all understand the mathematical reality of American electoralism mandates two parties and that capitalism has corrupted both.

Platner is likely to be less harmful to the global south. I'm trying to change restaurants, but renouncing citizenship and leaving is easier said than done. Paperwork takes time.

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.ml 9 points 4 days ago (3 children)

What am I supposed to do, not vote?

a) yes, but more importantly
b) organize with local socialist organisations, read theory, meet people in a political space and start doing something.

[–] 00xide@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I'm (genuinely, curiously) interested in the logic for not voting at all.

As I see it, mathematically speaking, my vote is counted either way. The election outcome not being influenced by my lack of vote is effectively giving half my vote to each candidate, for a net zero.

As I see it, given it's going to be counted either way, I'd rather it be counted for the candidate closer to my preferences.

Comrade, what would you recommend I do with that 45 minutes on a workday other than vote?

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

One thing you can certainly could do is hand in a blank ballot, or write in a candidate, or vote PSL. I mean this is just me looking at how I will approach the next elections here in g*rmany where the amount of choices just leads to a more believable solution. Plus in the US you already have out and out fascism, concentration camps, pogroms you name it. Participating in that system, giving a vote whether who you'd rather have deporting people or bombing children just serves to legitimize the outcome which you can't affect either way. The only "harm reduction" is how much the harm will affect you or others. Anyway this article makes it more clear I believe.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I think you're ignoring the psychic damage you're doing to yourself by voting for bloodthirsty demons.

You'll legitimately feel better if you vote for someone you actually like, even if you have to write it in yourself.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

write in the candidate you like; it can be anyone.

[–] Switchy85@sh.itjust.works -2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

A. Don't vote.
B. Do something.

Wtf are you talking about?

[–] Jentu@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Liberals when they shield their delicate eyes from clear and actionable items to make the world a better place and resort to vaguely rephrasing and omitting things until it is meaningless to them.

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 days ago

Yup exactly what this comrade said.

[–] Jentu@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

“I keep going to this same restaurant, so realistically all I’m ever going to eat is what they have on the menu”

Go organize. This isn’t the same as joining an angry parade. Talk to your local PSL. Standing outside the restaurant telling them to make better food won’t work since theirs is the only restaurant in town.

I’m not saying not to vote, but I’m also trying to get you to understand that getting stuck in the situation where you feel like voting is your only option doesn’t change the system at all- it changes yourself. Over time, it erodes your values until you are what you would’ve detested 20 years ago. One day, you’ll develop a liking for DDT pesticides because the alternative is nuclear waste.

You’re only forced to vote for the nazi because you would rather do that than organize for an alternative system. Voting for a Nazi is easy. Organizing and changing this system entirely isn’t.

I’m trying to change restaurants, but renouncing citizenship and leaving is easier said than done.

I'm not telling you to change restaurants. Other restaurants likely have the same issues you want to leave this one for. I'm telling you to be the restaurant. And just to be doubly clear, I'm not telling you to run for office. I don't want you to be an option for other people to pick from. I want you to work with an international community of chefs to build the best fuckin sandwich we've ever had.

[–] 00xide@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

At no point did I say I'm not engaging in organization. I do, and I think i do so quite effectively. I will also vote for Platner, because the alternative is to effectively vote for both Platner and Collins. My vote will be counted either way, mathematically speaking.

[–] Jentu@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago

You’ve already hinted that you desire to or plan on leaving, so why do you care if someone carrying out white supremacy through military action beats out someone carrying out white supremacy through legislative action by voting to ensure the person who carried out white supremacy through military action newfound access to legislative power? Both deserve [redacted], not a vote.

[–] hdnclr@beehaw.org -3 points 4 days ago

You're on a .ml instance, they absolutely think not voting is somehow a great idea.

I recommend stickjng to a diverse portfolio of strategies if you want to live in a better world.