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[–] Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Nobody is pretending it is okay.

But pretending like refusing to vote is morally superior than actively preventing the extra death camp is not.

[–] goferking0 1 points 4 hours ago

There are people in this very thread, and other parts of the fediverse, who are only here to attack those that point out it's not okay while they actively pretend it's okay.

[–] frisbird@lemmy.ml 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

No one is advocating refusing to vote. The post is explicitly stating that voting isn't helping. It's time to try something new

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

There are absolutely lots of people advocating refusing to vote. You can argue that OP isn't one of those people, but there are entire instances filled with people saying exactly that.

[–] frisbird@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

There are, but they have a very specific reason. And that reason is to discipline the party. That theory of action is pretty solid, but it's not what is being said here what's being said is that voting is impotent. You can vote all you want. You're pissing in the wind.

[–] BillCheddar@lemmy.world 1 points 15 minutes ago

You could not be more wrong. Factually, morally, tactically, strategically, you are wrong along every axis in every dimension of existence.

We can work together by standing together and voting our common interests or we can lose the country.

We should be supporting primary challengers for every Republican. Those moderate, DNC types? We should fund one in every goddamn red district in America.

There are more of us than there are of them. Instead of bitching about voting not mattering, make it fucking matter. Take over the Republican Party. Your local party has a couple thousand voters behind them. That's it. You can't find a couple thousand neighbors who think corruption is bad and kid-fucking is deplorable?

TRY HARDER FOR FUCK'S SAKE. STOP WHINING AND START WINNING.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 minutes ago

Nah, that theory of action is dogshit. A smattering of indignant leftists isn't going to discipline the party. Especially when the mechanism of action is... not doing something. That course of action is, in a disciplinary sense, indistinguishable from just being lazy or apathetic. It's not praxis, and it doesn't encourage praxis. 0/5 stars, terrible political action.

Voting isn't impotent. It's very weak, but it isn't impotent. It nudges things slightly, which isn't nothing.