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not even Jeffrey Eipstein could make people form class conciousness (lemmygrad.ml)

submitted 1 day ago by opiumfree@lemmygrad.ml to c/thedeprogram@lemmygrad.ml

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I decided to not be bitter and i followed a liberal influencer for like a week (they dont make political content usually) but today they posted that BULLSHIT about how trump is causing wars as a cover for the files and i had to unfollow. nobody is starting wars over that, theyre starting wars for capital and resources.

what the fuck is a ”eipstein class”? just those guys on the files? are the billionaires who refused or were not invited alright with you?

and of course the religious zealots doing the bit about how eipstein was satan incarnate while churning out money for their pastor to buy a new mansion.

the prolecattleiat is not being elevated to sapience by this situation alone. people have to read theory which is why i encourage them to do so. libs, anarchists and conservatives have the balls to talk about how mao, stalin and other leaders were also pedophiles or ray peests so communism is not worth it either so we just need a matriarchy as if a capitalist system would be fine if women were in charge.

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[–] amemorablename@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 3 hours ago

I think in this case by "outgrow", they mean "shifted to something other than ML." Their takes in this thread, from what I can gather, represent a tunnel-visioning on the labor aristocracy view, to the point that it overshadows everything else. My main disagreement with them in this thread started from them writing off a billion people as comparable to documented ruling elite pedophiles: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/11901324/8319299

It has been a bizarre experience. They keep saying it's about the settler contradiction, but have yet to explain to me how exactly they think the contradiction needs to be confronted in a way that is different from what people are already trying and in a way that people can realistically taken action on. Like I'm well aware of the possibility of betrayal, that it has happened before, but the whole back and forth made more sense to me in the context of a quote I recently read about Bordiga: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/11887529/8317276

It is fine to be cautious or to be concerned, but we need to examine what the real, observable threats/deviations are. For example, the ACP. We can point at that and say, yeah, people should stay away from that and be wary of it. If we point at a billion people and say, people should stay away from that and be wary of it, that's unrealistic and impractical to say the least.

The whole thing feels reminiscent of ultra-like criticism of AES states, but applied to any attempt at all on the part of westerners to dismantle the horrific systems it has. There are of course valid criticisms of attempts made. Some attempts are far less effective and some are downright shitty, but they are not all the same across the board.