idk, I feel like to be the type of person to flee the US when shit gets tough (if I even could) would make me the type of person I was fighting against in the first place (someone able to do that in the first place). Like don't get me wrong, there is value in moving. I have moved to different parts of the US, but it was because I didn't feel at home where I was, and I moved to a community. But fuck i'm so tired of listening to liberals who are like "I'm moving to Europe!" on a whim. Like good luck I guess, unless you have a valuable job you are about to find out what it's like to be one of us for a change. All of this to say, there is a very specific type of GTFO that some Americans have that is just annoying and speaks to the colonial upbringing that they haven't dealt with at best. A example is Not Just Bikes. The guy has some very useful videos that I use a lot, but fuck I get so tired of his "everyone should just move to Europe" spiel he does every once in a while.

[–] Tabitha@hexbear.net 11 points 2 days ago

the average person could probably successfully move to a lot of random countries, not that it would always be easy. But the average person is not likely to successfully be 1 of a million americans trying to escape all at the same time.

[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 10 points 2 days ago

Yeah, like, the type of people who have the ability to move to China in the event of major strife at home are the type of people I've been hating on for a long time.

[–] DornerStan@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There's the escapism angle but also like, I'd rather spend my life and labor contributing to a decent country that isn't the US. The shit we have to do for money, much of which, to some degree, feeds the imperialist machine no matter how far removed from the killing parts of it.

Like even teaching children, in and of itself an admirable and useful profession-- in the US they're gonna grow up to be soldiers or war machine engineers, or be people who serve soldiers or war machine engineers, or the people who serve the people who serve etc etc etc. The entire fucking economy surrounds a death and extraction machine. There's no guarantee that making a microcosm better or more efficient isn't just making the macrocosm better or more efficient. Spending my life on a fascist tank trying to flip its hubcap socialist.

It's a moot point because I can't afford to move anywhere lol. And also pretty reductive and undialectical. But that's the vibe that would push me towards leaving if it were a real possibility.

[–] Athena5898@hexbear.net 2 points 11 hours ago

I agree, I just hope to be part of the seeds of something better.