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Alright, so, let's follow your logic. If they're the same, then there's nothing lost voting for Democrats. Again, that's sort of the problem with your logic. You can say they're the exact same, but... That doesn't tell people not to vote for them. And that assumes you think they're the same, which we have established that you don't.
But like, then what about Democrats that aren't supported by the DNC? Are they also the exact same? What about the Democrats that pass ranked choice voting initiatives? Are they the exact same? I would say no.
See? You continue to have no stance. If they're the same, then voting for them should mean nothing to you. You should be okay with it, because, to you, it has no effect on anything.
Idk, pal, it just feels like you want a black and white world view, and you can only be good or bad. It's a really childish sort of mentality. It's weird that you continue to say Democrats are just as bad, and you attempt to label all Democrats as bad with that brush (and you do admit they aren't the same). But... That's not what your logic should conclude. And it makes me feel bad for you because you can't see that.
Yeah, you don't get it. I don't care who votes for whom. I care that people are wasting their effort, their organizing, and their relationships on voting. In this comment section alone, but of course all over the country, people are spending hours and hours arguing for the virtues of voting, of campaigning and door knocking, they make moral black and white statements like "if you didn't vote for X then you voted for Y", and people are saying so hard that things would be better if only everyone would just stop having standards and vote for genocidaires like it's literally the only valid moral position.
The problem isn't voting or not voting. The problem is that electorialism itself is a way to absorb the energy we need to fight back. The Democrats aren't saving our neighbors, we are by being in the streets. The Democrats who get minor reforms passed are either cynically attracting your attention or genuinely attracting your attention while being funded by cynical leaders who are just trying to keep all of the energy contained to electoralism.
The way we win is in the street. It always has been. We can go back through history and show how nearly everything worth having was won by people fighting, not by rock the vote campaigns.