webadict

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[–] webadict@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

The problem with your logic is that you are saying knowingly gets a Nazi tattoo, but you're against anyone having a Nazi tattoo, knowingly or not. So, let me take a slight detour before I get to the point.

The problem I have with an absolutist statement like that is that there are plenty of reasons someone might have a Nazi tattoo, even knowingly, that wouldn't make me immediately not support them. Now, given that statement, the circumstances are probably gonna be pretty stringent, but I don't think it's necessarily unforgivable or even disqualifying... BUT I think it mostly is, especially because you're right that you can probably find someone that is just as good as whoever I could find that fits the bill, but does not and has not ever had a Nazi tattoo. So, like... I guess the point is simple.

You're right. And I am wrong.

I think it's worth noting that many of the people who supported him did not do so out of idiocy. They were taken advantage of, their willingness to forgive exploited. They knew all of these things and were wary of them, but chose to ignore them because they were lied to about the kind of person he was. They trusted him. And they were scammed.

It is easy to say in hindsight that this was easy to see. I was willing to forgive the tattoo at first and the military service at first (though, not the mercenary work, nor the reddit comments, and definitely not the fucking rape) because, well, in some ways I am kinda gullible, and in other ways, I kinda give a lot of leeway to certain privileged people (mostly rich white men) who make mistakes that ruin lives because they never considered the consequences of their actions because society allows them to do so with little to no repercussions, and that subconsciously affects my opinions.

For the record, I wasn't a Platner supporter before this, but I understand how many of them got there. He said a lot of things that people desperately wanted to hear, and that is how people get scammed. They aren't dumb, even if they did act like morons. They're desperate. They're hopeful for anything that can make their lives better. They're even gullible to believe a man with a Nazi tattoo who was a Blackwater mercenary that assaulted many women was a good candidate, and responsible for perpetuated a culture that allows these horrible decisions to continue not being as bad as they should rightfully be. But, even though I understand why you think so, I still don't think they're stupid. And maybe that's another thing on me.

[–] webadict@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, I also think it's completely fair to criticize me for not knowing something. Seriously, if I don't know something, feel free to let me know because how else am I gonna learn it if I don't know?

Like, I don't want it to sound like I'm making a joke, I'm not a genius, I can't recognize every warning sign for what it is, I don't know a whole lot about a whole lot, and a lot of my knowledge is learned by people telling me something, me researching a few things pretty casually, and me thinking about a few things. I've unlearned several things I thought was true, and I might even have to unlearn some of those when I find out that's wrong. I don't want you to think that's a point of pride, I want the pride to be that I'm open to being wrong, and I'm going to defend what I think is right against what I think is wrong.

So, like, open season for you. Have at.

[–] webadict@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I apologize for making you read them. I did not consider that you had feelings worthy of hurting, but next time, I will attempt to think of you. I know that when I type, you're forced to read them, so just pretend that I'm typing Bill Pullman's speech from Independence Day each time, and that might make things easier. If you are unable to do this, please retrieve a hammer or other blunt instrument and smash all of your phones and computers and other electronics in your local vicinity, and you will find that you can no longer read my comments.

[–] webadict@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Not everyone knows everything. To be afraid of being ignorant is silly. I'm not embarrassed about saying I don't know something, and if you are, that says more about you than it does me. I will learn and know for next time.

[–] webadict@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Tell me about it!

[–] webadict@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So, like, Nazis don't deserve to be raped, but this woman does? Seems kinda like an open and shut case to that the answer is no.

But, if you are still confused, I highly recommend literature on how and why abusive relationships exist and continue! That would answer a lot of the questions you seem to have here.

[–] webadict@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I like to give a lot of benefit of the doubt, but sometimes, I mire in annoyance, and if I must style on someone (and my brain has informed me that I must), it should at least be someone who deserves it.

It's not conducive to an argument, but it is conducive to my well-being, so if you appreciate it, all the better!

[–] webadict@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Hey man... Nazis don't deserve to be raped. I know, hot fucking take, but I'm okay with that stance morally.

[–] webadict@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

If your excuse is that things can be doctored and faked, then it kinda feels like you've already made up your mind on this. You don't seem like you care what the evidence is.

Like, if you're gonna not care, at least don't be a coward about it. I get that people won't like you, but be more brazen in your misogyny so that people will avoid and dislike you sooner!

Also, just to start a fire for fun, Amber Heard was abused, even if she wasn't a perfect victim. It's pretty well-documented, and Johnny Depp is a piece of shit. I don't like that she returned the abuse, but that happens a lot in abusive relationships.

[–] webadict@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (5 children)

He steps up the plates.

no one deserves to be raped

He's winding up for a big one!

but

Oh, swing and a miss on a victimblame.

nazi woman

Strike two on another victimblame! Maybe he can turn it around!

You are all racist as fuck.

Hot damn, a projection outta nowhere! Three strikes in rapid succession, the coach is definitely gonna bench him with that performance!

[–] webadict@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (7 children)

I'm actually making this argument for the people supporting him, but I don't think you're reading my comments, or you would try harder.

[–] webadict@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

You're trying too hard, but the bait and switch on being called a bully while calling you pumpkin is quite good, that's great trolling.

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