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Why do so many vegans seek conflict instead of educating others? It's pretty clear that this post seeks solely to declare non-vegans hypocrites.
Good idea using your shit-stirring alt for this one though.
I have no mischievous intent against any group. I just saw some moral inconsistency. So I though let's AskLemmy about their opinion on this topic. People are answering pretty rationally and are not just outright dismissive.
Your question is clearly dismissive itself. I have no reason to think it's in good faith, especially considering you seem to only post from this account rarely and to stir up shit
Their responses are clear and methodical, giving the impression that OP is genuinely trying to discuss a potentially-tricky subject in a calm, rational manner. If they were here to “stir up shit,” surely they’d be responding in a way that encourages more drama. From the evidence, I don’t believe that’s their intent at all.
Sometimes people want to discuss difficult topics, even if there’s a risk of people taking it the wrong way. I’d say OP’s doing a decent job encouraging civility, and that’s something I wish we could see more of online.
I am sorry for making you feel this way.
Carnists: Murder, rape, torture, slavery
Vegans: Once in a blue moon literally just saying something about it in public
One of these is immoral. You'll be shocked at which this boomer reference username thinks it is!
no one is murdering, torturing, rapping, or enslaving animals
"It doesn't count because we use different words"
this is a strawman
a strawman of what argument? either fill the vacuum or shut up
words mean things
And I use them very deliberately, stupid.
Would killing you not count as murder because you lack higher brain function to speak in sentences? Did I just step on your argument?
Hmm I wonder if the definitions of any of those words requires human beings to be involved 🤔.
Sounds like you're stretching.
Isn't it cool how you can do that to, say, Jews or Palestinians? You just label them as not human, and then it stops being murder!
What a handy tool that doesn't demand reflection!
No, no it's not cool at all. And what you're referring to is called dehumanization. Definitely calls for some reflection on your part, lol.
You're the one with the moral framework specifically designed so that you can carry out the acts of murder, rape, torture and slavery and not hold yourself at fault for them because different word. But I'm the one who needs to reflect? Shut up you fucking moron.
Murder rape and slavery all have definitions. Unless all of a sudden were saying cows and chickens are people, you need to adjust your language or nobody will ever take you seriously. Angy li'l vegan, ain't ya?
Everybody takes you seriously because you are getting mad while arguing that you can fuck a sheep and it's not rape
No stupid, that should be a crime too, it's just not called rape.
The act is the exact same. But they're subhuman. So it's not the same crime.
We came up with a separate word for it.
I keep stating inarguable reality in plain terms at you and you keep getting more and more mad. This is what being wrong feels like.
No, now you're talking sense. It may be sarcastic, but you're absolutely correct. I don't like the subhuman phrasing, but we can work with that. Animal abuse is already a crime. Torturing or having sex with an animal are both crimes. Rape and murder are when people kill and forcibly have sex with people.
Using the word carnist is like screaming "I am a huge asshole and I think I'm superior". I won't be seeing your replies.
Ps. Hilarious you think anything from the 90s is for boomers. You're just telling me you're an awkward gen z
Dick Tracy, famous pulp comic from the 1990s
I'M NOT CIS I'M NORMAL REEEEEEEEEEE
(They're afraid of talking to someone with above a 5th grade vocabulary)
Technically Dick Tracy is pre-boomer as it started in the 30s. Though it ran till the 70s I think so kinda works both ways. Simply biazzare that the other guy thinks it started in the 90s though either way.
Yeah the 90's was when it petered out as a cultural reference. There was a movie that did well.