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The Israeli government was not shown the memorandum of understanding drafted to end the war with Iran, an Israeli government official told NBC News on Wednesday, the latest sign of growing tension between the United States and Israel.

Shortly after Donald Trump said he had given a copy of the MOU to Israel, the same source said Israel still hadn’t seen the draft. The source wouldn’t comment on whether or not Israeli diplomats had asked for the text and were denied it.

The Israeli government’s absence in the negotiations leading up to the MOU has become a perilous hindrance for Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who faces career-defining elections before the end of October. The deal framework was provided to NBC News by a senior U.S. official later on Wednesday.

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[–] andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 4 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

First, I really wish I could put that many 9s on it. I agree with you, but it would be nice if Democrats ran as directly on "no more wars" as Trump did. I definitely wouldn't rule out Harris allowing Israel to attack Iran, but just being more discrete and framing it as "Israel's war" instead of ours.

Second, folks should be wary: one of the things that makes Netanyahu so dangerous is that he's genuinely a mastermind at planning AND pivoting: he'll game out multiple sides of things, and when people say he's cooked or is finally out of options he'll pull out a move he had ready.

My point is that he's never taken by surprise, and he's the undisputed master of pulling a rabbit out of his hat when everyone thinks they've got him cornered.

Do not underestimate his ability to win reelection or retain his power even if he loses.

[–] justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io 2 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

He's not some impossible genius.

Recall that the entire October 7th attack in 2023 happened at all because Bibi moved the soldiers out of posts to prevent attacks exactly like that to posts near the judges that were overseeing his criminal trials in order to intimidate them.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Do you genuinely think he didn't want Oct 7 to happen?

[–] justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io 2 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

I hope he didn't. That he was so focused on his own skin that he didn't look at other things.

Or at least he didn't care if there was an attack.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Maybe I'm just being overly cynical, but (based on Israel's actions afterward) it seems to me like they must've been happy to have a casus bellum as an excuse to annex Gaza and now Lebanon.

[–] andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 1 points 8 hours ago

I don't think he expected or planned it, but this massive security failure does demonstrate my point.

After the attacks, it was uniformly agreed that he was now politically dead. There was no coming back from a fuck up that massive.

Yet here he stands. He turned Oct. 7 from the biggest political liability imaginable into a tremendous opportunity.

Never assume he's finished.

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago

That or he let Hamas attack. They knew about the plans more than a year before it happened.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

I definitely wouldn’t rule out Harris allowing Israel to attack Iran

That is not the point you made, Trump helped attack Iran, and has spend way way more resources attacking Iran and protecting Israel than Israel themselves have. Kamala Harris would guaranteed not have followed Israel into a war against Iran.

he’s genuinely a mastermind at planning AND pivoting:

No he is not, what he is is a psychopath with no morals, he is just as much like Hitler as Trump is, and Kamala Harris is definitely not like Hitler.

My point is that he’s never taken by surprise,

That's a pretty stupid statement given the current circumstances are directly contrary to what he planned.