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Discussion of climate, how it is changing, activism around that, the politics, and the energy systems change we need in order to stabilize things.

As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 3 points 4 days ago (2 children)

We're actually fairly sure it works; the big issue is that it will redistribute who gets rainfall.

[–] zd9@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's been done on very small scale tests like the SCOPEx test. It's done with marine cloud brightening (MCB) which is a different thing.

However, SAI is absolutely dangerous and if it's not continued indefinitely it will lead to termination shock. Because all of the CO2 emissions remain and will even increase, if you suddenly let that sun energy in again, all of the bad climate change effects will happen in months to several years, instead of many decades like it would normally. That would absolutely lead to war, billions dead, most agriculture dead, and near a complete collapse of the entire biosphere.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yes. And because of how long CO2 concentration remains elevated, it needs to be continued for longer than civilizations last.

[–] zd9@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

You just made previous comments advocating for it though, so I was pointing out the biggest danger of it, but now you're acknowledging this issue?

[–] bascule@mas.to 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

@silence7 no, no we don’t.

We know it can have localized impacts that move the problem around and make it worse for others, which makes trying to implement it in an uncoordinated manner, particularly without a computer model driving the plan, a dick move

[–] Einskjaldi@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Volcano sulfur emissions are well known and the same thing from shipping emissions.

[–] bascule@mas.to 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

@Einskjaldi @silence7 sulfate aerosols cause acid rain, respiratory irritation, and can even cause severe cardiopulmonary diseases leading to premature deaths.

But even if we could find some reflective aerosol that isn't toxic, computer models of SRM/geoengineering have shown frightening negative side effects including slowed global circulation leading to an uneven temperature gradient that would disrupt the jetstream, leading to increased atmospheric blocking in the form of stagnant high-pressure systems that lock in hot air for extended periods a.k.a. "heat domes" and effectively exacerbating some of the worst problems the climate crisis is already causing

https://news.mit.edu/2020/reflecting-sunlight-cool-planet-storm-0602

It looks like the article you linked discussing the potential effect aerosols have on storms and the heat gradients don't really change in the northern hemisphere with or without the aerosols. The southern there is a slight change but I'm not sure what conclusions can be made from that. They also are assuming either quadrupling or doubling of current CO2 levels which doesn't sound realistic considering renewables and batteries are either cheaper or at price parity in many situations and only getting cheaper by comparison. With most of transportation, energy generation, industrial heat, and space heating greatly reducing their carbon footprint in the next 5-10 years I don't see us doubling our CO2 concentration. Does SO2 cause problems yeah, but in the low concentrations that it would be at and in the upper atmosphere where it would spend less time raining down to earth it's better than the alternative. Are there possible strategies of releasing aerosols in certain locations to minimize the negative externalities idk but that's why the research needs to be done.