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[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Valid but just have to say you can't support Zelensky's take here and also pretend Iran has no reason for its attacks on the gulf states.

[–] Quokka@quokk.au 12 points 2 days ago

People take issue with Iran attacking them?

[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.wtf 7 points 2 days ago

I doubt anybody's going to try that here.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

By that logic you also can't pretend Israel had no reason to attack Iran, given that Hamas is Iran's proxy and Hamas attacked Israel.

Or maybe we shouldn't go back to pre-WWI logic and think that all conflicts are exactly the same and every conflict is automatically justified by flimsy reasoning. That kind of logic didn't work out so well in the past, see WWI.

[–] Diurnambule@jlai.lu 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Or that Hamas is justified to attack Israel since israel attacked Palestinian first. And is killing them since at least 20 years. This kind of logic can be used in all directions too. When you look into it it is always the Epstein class and it is equivalent in each country the issue. These fucker always decided to burn the world instead of sharing their just share.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Israel was justified in Attacking Egypt and Jordan (the countries that previously occupied Palestine) because they attacked Israel. Do we continue on until we get back to whichever caveman thtrew a stone at another cavemen?

Or maybe we should accept the more modern sensibilities that all wars are bad, escalating wars is bad, "moral justification" for war is stupid because war is never a moral act.

[–] Diurnambule@jlai.lu 1 points 1 day ago

Lol, yeah we cab go on. But I think we are aligned this argument is crap

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

I saw the precision strike on the refinery. I'm thinking UA can take out those relays very cleanly.