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I still don't get who or what us amerians mean when they say libertarian and at this point too im afraid to ask
Browsing libertarian subreddits was so much fun. They also didn't know what it is. But they really like guns and being racist.
Oh dude, I got my undergrad in econ. We went to libertarian conventions for entertainment (department rule, don't heckle, don't make fun until you are safely away from the venue. Don't get the department banned. Be good guests).
even though you are going to see really really funny stuff
(might not be funny to hear me tell it but I'm still laughing 20ish years later. like that one time this dude was ranting about how we used fiat money and not the gold standard. And everyone agreed with him that fiat money was totally worthless. So he held up a twenty and asked who wanted it. And every hand went up. So he tore it in two and asked who still wanted it. Well all you need to spend it is both serial numbers, and most of us knew that... He did not get the response he wanted is all I'm sayingBut like the one uniting thing behind the libertarians was they weren't quite sure what they were doing there either
But I thought those kind of people also "own the libs" aka the left
"The libs" = liberals, which in a US context is often considered left (of the republican) albeit it being a very rightwing ideology, today mostly focusing on privatization of public good.
Libertarias are, in this context, hyper individualists who do not like any form of government. They do not like when their gun ownership is restricted, if they are stopped by the cops for speeding, have to pay any form of tax, or if they get a fine for dumping their house sewage into the local river.
Don't forget their violent passion for child marriage
Here's my summary of Libertarians:
Hate gubmint, hate taxes, love muh weed, simple as
My favorite was from some debate where the question was "should there be driver's licenses" and one of them said "hell no, whats next, a license to use you own damn toaster?"
I love that clip. Then it cuts to some other guy who is like "well, I would like to see some sort of proof of driving skills..." or something like that, and the whole room starts booing him.
Hate government messing with their business, but are pretty well happy when cops fucks brown people. Hate paying taxes but enjoy federal help when their business tanks.
You missed guns and age of consent, their two main issues
Don't forget wanting to fuck children.
There's two types of libertarians. Noun Libertarians and actual libertarians. Just like the two types of communists. If you were to name your dog Libertarian would they be Libertarian? Yes. But would they be libertarian? That depends. There are a number of key things that someone would need to embrace in order to be considered libertarian. Something that most who call themselves Libertarian fail.
Then it also doesn't help that most actual libertarians have largely abandoned the term in general company. Usually self identifying as anarchist. Which isn't helped by the fact that there are oxymorons claming to be anarchist capitalists. Which is just basic capitalists.
If you want to figure out if someone is or isn't quickly. There is one rather easy test you can perform. Simply ask them what their opinion of private property is. If they extol its virtues and try to sell it to you. They are not libertarians or anarchists. Any system that would allow an individual to own more houses than they could ever actually live in, in a lifetime. While people go unhoused and starving. Something which can only be perpetuated by force and violation of consent. A basic violation of principles. And if you're curious what other option there is. Look at the discussion of personal property vs private property.
When a libertarian/anarchist calls taxes theft. It isn't because they don't want to contribute to the community. Often far from. It's that it's collected under threat of force by the state. To be put to their pet projects. Ie sports stadiums or subsidizing exploitative private businesses, even wars. All of which represent actual very real theft from the community in a literal sense. Not the actual support of the community. Securing food, housing, education, healthcare etc for the community. And by the same token private property is also an enduring type of theft.